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Jeffco Resident Fights For Helicopter Flights From His Home
CBS Denver ^ | 18 Nov 2019 | Tori Mason

Posted on 11/20/2019 6:35:12 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT

neighborhood dispute over a resident’s comings and goings had to be decided in court. The answer to whether helicopters can land on private property is not clearly defined in Jefferson County Zoning Regulations.

Jonathan Sawyer lives on several acres of unincorporated land in Jefferson County. He occasionally charters helicopters for trips to the airport. According to Sawyer, the trip is about double the cost of a rideshare service, significantly faster and safer than driving.

“Because it’s not mentioned, the county says it’s forbidden and they get to choose whether or not to enforce it,” explained Sawyer.

According to the Jefferson County Zoning Resolution, if a use is not listed within the permitted uses of a zone district, then the use is not allowed.

(Excerpt) Read more at denver.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: helicopter
A guy that worked for me owned his own helicopter and wanted his own official helipad. Not a gyrocopter or a para-copter, a powered rotor helicopter.

He purchased 15 acres of farmland next to his house.... After the required public notice a bitty body TEN MILES distant complained...

Last I heard his attorney fees were mounting upward.

1 posted on 11/20/2019 6:35:12 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“According to the Jefferson County Zoning Resolution, if a use is not listed within the permitted uses of a zone district, then the use is not allowed.”

Hate to break it to the County, but that’s not how zoning laws work.


2 posted on 11/20/2019 6:37:36 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

This is garbage. If the law doesn’t specify you can not do something, then you can until they change the law.


3 posted on 11/20/2019 6:37:56 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

He is guilty until he proves himself innocent.

At least that’s how Jeffco is interpreting it


4 posted on 11/20/2019 6:39:31 AM PST by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“According to the Jefferson County Zoning Resolution, if a use is not listed within the permitted uses of a zone district, then the use is not allowed.”

Thus a totalitarian form of government thrives.


5 posted on 11/20/2019 6:40:00 AM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (If you want a definition of "bullying" just watch the Democrats in the Senate)
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To: bk1000

This is garbage. If the law doesn’t specify you can not do something, then you can until they change the law.
= = =

I want to see the exact wording that allows pooping in my own toilet.

I am holding it, until then.

Well, maybe that last line is /s.

/s for sarcasm, not /s for /$.


6 posted on 11/20/2019 6:52:08 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (This is not /s. It is just as viable as any MSM 'information', maybe more so!)
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To: Jewbacca

Typical Lib government, the only rights you have are the few we give you! Guess we will find out how Liberal their court is since the U.S. government does not have any power other than that which is granted to it by the U.S. Constitution.


7 posted on 11/20/2019 7:02:52 AM PST by Lockbox
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To: Balding_Eagle

So Jeffco is Demonrat?


8 posted on 11/20/2019 7:07:36 AM PST by Eagles6
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To: DUMBGRUNT

1. Land near private airport/gun range = cheaper, people buy.

2. Move in, meet the neighbors, sit back a short while so they go back to sleep

3. “Hey, there’s an airport RIGHT THERE...! I am outraged...! I cannot sleep, my kharma is all screwed up..! I can’t get erections, 3rd Chakra lost mojo and I constantly remember the war I was not in and YOU AIRPLANE GUYS ARE TO BLAME..!!! Shut-down the airport..!!”

4. Lots of paper & coordinated screaming, fake outrage

5. Airport finally shut-down

6. Home values rise

A certain TYPE of person does this, disproportionately.

Oh and if instead it’s a gun range?

They do it much more.

whatIdoneverimpactsyoubutwhatyoudoalwaysdropsapianoonmepayme


9 posted on 11/20/2019 7:09:42 AM PST by gaijin
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To: DUMBGRUNT

The notion that “not mentioned” means “not allowed” under the law is legal fiction.


10 posted on 11/20/2019 7:23:45 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
use is not listed within the permitted uses of a zone district, then the use is not allowed

Citizen sees the Councilman is wearing a type of purple shirt that goes Unlisted in our zone district. The councilman is advised his purple shirt is disallowed. Councilman shall cede possession of same.

11 posted on 11/20/2019 7:30:42 AM PST by gaijin
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"Oh and if instead it’s a gun range?

They do it much more. "

Locally, one issue I have seen come up a number of times is the existence of hog farms. They have been there forever. A developer buys the neighboring land and puts up a few dozen mega-mansions next to the wonderful scenic backdrop of a country farm. During the winter months, they sell the lots and build homes and wealthy urban families settle in to their new "country" life.

Summer comes back around, the warm summer breeze carries the aroma from the hog lagoons across the countryside and suddenly, country life isn't so wonderful for the relocated city slickers and they start demanding new regulations on farmers and/or the hog farms be shut down.

12 posted on 11/20/2019 7:39:26 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: Jewbacca

The DC suburbs in VA have private helicopters dotted around. Presidents have been known to land at area golf courses for a round of golf.


13 posted on 11/20/2019 7:43:37 AM PST by cnsmom
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

“Thus a totalitarian form of government thrives.”

Everything which is not forbidden is compulsory.


14 posted on 11/20/2019 7:44:59 AM PST by READINABLUESTATE
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To: READINABLUESTATE

The Ninth Amendment (Amendment IX) to the United States Constitution addresses rights, retained by the people, that are not specifically enumerated in the Constitution. It is part of the Bill of Rights. The amendment reads:

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people...
Wiki


15 posted on 11/20/2019 7:51:33 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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To: Hatteras

Summer comes back around, the warm summer breeze carries the aroma from the hog lagoons across the countryside and suddenly, country life isn’t so wonderful for the relocated city slickers and they start demanding new regulations on farmers and/or the hog farms be shut down.””

I live in rural N Nevada. There are many kinds of animals all around this valley.

One old goat retiree is complaining that ‘since his neighbor moved in, he has lots more flies’. He is blaming it on the new neighbor’s 3 horses. The new neighbor also has 3 large dogs. Old goat has NO animals-—not even a cat.

I have tried to explain to the old goat that flies are far more interested in CARNIVORE poop than HERBIVORE poop. He won’t hear it. I invited him to walk behind my house & look at the horses there & see how few flies there were. He wouldn’t.


16 posted on 11/20/2019 8:33:35 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: DUMBGRUNT

MOST current “zoning” matters should legally retreat to (a) a legal requirement the property owner have property casualty and home residential insurance, and then whether or not a house meets “code”, is “safe” and otherwise “O.K”, should be determined by the insurance company of the property owner, not bureaucrats.

Towns and counties everywhere should look at how little zoning Houston has, and how little that represents real and actual problems there. Of course, like many other locales, Houston does have many of those notorious HOAs, which can be bigger tyrants than governmental bureaucrats.


17 posted on 11/20/2019 9:54:54 AM PST by Wuli
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