Posted on 12/27/2019 12:07:48 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
Motivation
Of course not, but going to Czechoslovakia with the Nazis wasn’t right.
“US forces were late to the party...”
What kind of revisionist history are you propagating? The US wasn’t even involved in the European conflict when Paris was captured. You make it sound like the US intentional withheld support from France, while you attempt to absolve Russia for doing exactly that.
Oh boy, that canard always comes up.
There was no cooperation there. The Nazis couldn’t care less what Poland did there. And yes, the Czechs actually stole that region in 1920, when Poland was, you know, busy saving the rest of the continent from Bolshevism.
Not saying Poland was right to do it, but this notion that it was in cooperation with the Nazis is disingenuous at best.
It’s all based on the idea that Soviets intended on dominating Poland after the war.
Katyn was certainly part of that, by eliminating the best of the Polish officer class.
I think I explained the motivation just right. Wars are fought for national interests above all. Early involvement in Warsaw uprising was contrary to the Soviet interest. Was it moral or not is another question but they probably believed British-controlled Poland might be uncomfortable to have in the rear. I am saying it without taking sides right now.
The annexation of Austria was more than a year before that pact in March 1938. Czechoslovakia was in Mar, 39.
A pact signed in August 1939 did not “set off WWII”.
And besides at that point, for all intents and purposes, Czechoslovakia was no longer a viable nation.
That was the Nazi justification for invading the neutral Netherlands. "If we don't take it, the Brits will."
As expected, the Allies did declare war when Hitler invaded Poland as they had refrained from doing in reaction to his other land grabs.
That said, it is an interesting question whether the war could have been headed off had the Allies stopped appeasing Hitler at an earlier date.
We are now treading on relative territory. The Czech very much might have stolen Szczecin from Poland in 1920 but the Soviets might say Poland stolen the Molotov-Ribbentrop areas from Ukraine in 1920 too. That is how it works. We are either respecting established borders or not.
Someone mentioned here that Russia has stolen Crimea and might steal Narva but both Narva and Crimea are historically Russian based on the same logic you apply to Szczecin recognizing it as historically Polish although established borders say otherwise.
After WWI these borders were new and confusing, they were imposed upon these peoples by the French and the British.
Clemenza was right...
“You know, you gotta stop them at the beginning. Like they should have stopped Hitler at Munich, they should never let him get away with that, they was just asking for trouble.”
Besides it was Zaolzie, not Szczecin.
These Vikings, apparently they are expanding to Moscow, again.
In a nutshell, this thread demonstrates everything wrong with the European mentality. They are getting wrapped around the axle of events that happened 70-80 years ago. And they are just as happy to get bitterly angry about insults and offenses from 1304 or whenever.
Their petty smallness is why they will never achieve true greatness no matter what political union like the EU they cobble together. They are a small people not fit to shine the shoes of a true American.
“”””And besides at that point, for all intents and purposes, Czechoslovakia was no longer a viable nation.””””
That’s 100% true but how do you think Stalin and Hitler viewed Poland?
“”””That was the Nazi justification for invading the neutral Netherlands. “If we don’t take it, the Brits will.””””
Sorry, but it is non-sequitur. We are now arguing the Soviet inaction, not their action.
You are rightfully blaming the Nazi for aggression against Netherlands based on such reasoning. It was a hypocricy because the Brits didn’t attack and if they did the Brits were to blame.
Non-intervention in Warsaw uprising is an act or more accurately non-act of the whole different matter. I am sure you understand what I mean.
Sorry, Zaolzie, you are right.
>>were largely responsible for the defeat of the Nazis on the ground.
While they no doubt took the casualties, they could never have done it without U.S. logistic support.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/pearl/www.geocities.com/Pentagon/6315/lend.html
http://citizensnewswire.org/files/mjd.pdf
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