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Ancient Mediterranean seawall first known defense against sea level rise and it failed
Eurekalert! ^ | December 18, 2019 | Flinders University

Posted on 01/01/2020 9:19:27 PM PST by SunkenCiv

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To: Mariner

An entire civilization comprised of over a dozen cities is under 50ft of water off the coast of India.


and more in far deeper water


21 posted on 01/02/2020 1:21:46 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: SunkenCiv

Did any one consider that the boulder wall is mean to stop storms from obliterating planted clams and maybe oysters? That would explain the close proximity of the small village - living that close to the sea in tiny huts seems foolish unless there is a good reason, like harvesting seafood for trade


22 posted on 01/02/2020 1:27:34 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Mariner

Yes. There is also a considerable area, once populated by humans, underwater off the NE(?) coast of England, according to a documentary I saw some time back.

“Normal”, for the last few million years, has been Chicago under a mile of ice. That water has to go somewhere during the brief warm breaks (interglacial periods). “Atlantis” is not entirely a mythical legend...


23 posted on 01/02/2020 2:03:59 AM PST by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left worth controlling.)
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To: Darksheare

“Wouldn’t it be more logical that a seawall was built to provide an artificial harbor?”

This is the obvious reason to build the wall, or simply to limit errosion.

“Why did the author reflexively go straight to globull worming?”

Probably so the article would be printed.


24 posted on 01/02/2020 3:16:56 AM PST by Clean_Sweep
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To: SunkenCiv

I blame “Global Something”.


25 posted on 01/02/2020 3:53:03 AM PST by airborne (I don't always scream at the TV but when I do it's hockey season!)
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To: Paul R.; All

PR’s comment excerpted;“Normal”, for the last few million years, has been Chicago under a mile of ice. That water has to go somewhere during the brief warm breaks (interglacial periods).

Chicago is built on limestone the decay of trillions of mollusk creatures which developed after the area turned into a subtropic climate. Evidence of the presence of huge sharks were even found on area quarries.


26 posted on 01/02/2020 3:53:49 AM PST by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L,J,Keslin posting here for the record hoping somebody might read and pass around)
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To: SunkenCiv

That you, Bobby?


27 posted on 01/02/2020 4:01:25 AM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives numerous, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Are they sure it was sea rise and not having an over population that sunk the land. It is well known that too many people on one side of an island will tip it over. Maybe same thing here........./sarc/sarc/


28 posted on 01/02/2020 4:07:55 AM PST by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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To: dayglored

Science is hard...for Al Gore


29 posted on 01/02/2020 4:20:28 AM PST by Zathras
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To: DennisR
There wasn't just one Bobby, thanks to multiplication. It's the name of the game.

30 posted on 01/02/2020 7:07:50 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I seriously doubt a 100 meter length of “sea wall” held back any water at all.

Water can just go around things that get in its way, after all.

It’s more likely that the wall was built to keep Medy, the Mediterranean Sea Monster from just waddling right up into the village at chow time.


31 posted on 01/02/2020 7:44:05 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: SunkenCiv

I am thinking there is a 99% chance this wall was meant for defense and not to block sea level rise. But leave it to the left to see everything historical in a politically correct light.


32 posted on 01/02/2020 7:53:20 AM PST by oil_dude
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To: Clean_Sweep

Or as a wave break to make a calmer section of water to throw cast nets into for fishing.
Or for small boats.


33 posted on 01/02/2020 8:43:55 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Mr_Moonlight

Well ... obviously ... there were no SUV’s or aerosol hairspray’s back then ....


Back then they did have, however, huge, did I say huge, in case you didn’t hear, huge CO2 generators.


34 posted on 01/02/2020 8:46:17 AM PST by zaxtres
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Submerged neolithic villages (here, Atlit Yam) and their water wells, off the coast of Southern Levant, featuring the present and ancient coastlines. After Galili & Rosen 2011: 49, fig. 4 (page 48, the C-14 dates ranging 8370-8210 cal B. C. must in fact be read B. P.-Galili: pers. com.). figure one

Submerged neolithic villages (here, Atlit Yam) and their water wells, off the coast of Southern Levant, featuring the present and ancient coastlines. After Galili & Rosen 2011: 49, fig. 4 (page 48, the C-14 dates ranging 8370-8210 cal B. C. must in fact be read B. P.-Galili: pers. com.).

35 posted on 01/02/2020 8:53:36 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Grimmy
We are of course seeing what's left of it, after 7000 years submerged. But it could very well be a breakwater, which fits the idea that the melting ice hundreds or thousands of miles away were forcing up sealevel, and they had no way of knowing that they were fighting a losing battle. Probably did the trick for quite a number of years. Neolithic settlement of Anatolia seems to have sprung up from nothing, and the suspicion is that the culture had spent many generations on areas now submerged but only a matter of miles from the later sites.

36 posted on 01/02/2020 10:05:59 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Sea Monster Defense Construction just sounds sexier.

Of course, it could have been religious. Maybe they had a god that was worshiped by making linear piles of rock?

Or, it could have been the birth place of my old First Sergeant. Every time any of us got into trouble he’d have us out on the beach digging defense works (anti tank traps, gun pits, etc) on the beach for days.


37 posted on 01/02/2020 10:26:30 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: SunkenCiv

Serious for just a sec...

It is good to see archaeology extended beyond the wetline on coasts.

There’s gotta be so much to learn in the near coast waters. Too bad it’s so expensive to go searching for it.


38 posted on 01/02/2020 10:28:09 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: SunkenCiv

If only they had adopted a carbon tax and signed the Paris Accords, the sea wouldn’t have risen . . .


39 posted on 01/02/2020 12:06:19 PM PST by colorado tanker
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