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Posted on 01/02/2020 11:25:47 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT
There is a major hospital in the city I live in where they will not hire you if you have nicotine in your system. You get tested when going through hiring process. However, that is the only time they test you. YOU can’t smoke during work hours as it affects the patients (smell of smoke).
Are you saying it’s wrong to eliminate public health hazards, or that doing so is socialist?
Oh, I get it. Like how it’s okay to poop in the streets of San Fran. Now I understand. Thanks for straightening that out for me.
This is nothing new. Companies have been for many years been denying employment to consumers of nicotine products with good reason to. It costs more to hire and maintain a nicotine user than it does a non user of nicotine related products. That’s undisputed fact. It’s a simple and practical decision to cut down on unnecessary costs to do so. Nicotine users miss more work days, take more sick time and raise the cost of medical insurance for all involved in a medical plan for companies. That’s being practical and wise.
Are any of those items inhaled into the lungs?
Same goes for Obese people.
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“Same goes for Obese people.”
Yes, but in some cases, being obese may not be a choice.
Use of nicotine is always a choice.
extreme sports participants, etc.
As long-time rock and ice climber, I remember well going to an insurance benefits meeting that passed this clause!!!
I asked how many employees consumed alcohol and were injured, and still received full benefits?
They too should not be covered by the plan!!
It was quickly and vociferously voted down without discussion.
That was about 1990 and I’m still pissed!
Very rare cases.
“Today, nicotine users; tomorrow meat eaters... “
A drunk HR executive for the company I worked for in the ‘80’s, which was self insured, told me they secretly tested for nicotine along with the usual at their pre-employment blood screen. If a candidate tested positive the hiring manager had to demonstrate that no other candidate could be found for that position. So, companies understood that smokers were more expensive employees way back then. (At that time you could still smoke in your office. Imagine that!)
I have a smoker friend who is forty. He has just been diagnosed with lymphoma. But, long before that, he was a frequent user of medical services and medicines; way more than any non-smoker I know. Both his parents died in their late forties from smoking related illnesses.
That's no joke.
Sure, but any fat slob can claim that it is the genetics that makes them obese. A smoker cannot claim that their genetics makes them smoke.
I have no problem with a company prohibiting the use of anything, legal or not, during hours they pay for. If they want to tell you what you can do nights and weekends, I’m fine with that too, so long as they also pay market rate for those hours. If a person is off the clock, what they do or don’t do is none of the company’s beeswax.
Pittsburgh’s Lefty Mayor right now is trying to run a gun control law through a loophole which gives municipalities autonomy and more power on how they deal with PUBLIC HEALTH issues.
He is claiming that the number of violent and accentual shootings is a PUBLIC HEALTH issue.
And he will not be the last.
Being a female is not a choice.
Being a smoker is a choice.
You get in trouble when you base employment practices on genetics like gender, race, etc.
The employee has the choice to go work for another company.
You were probably in great shape, while many of your co-workers were overweight—clearly _much_ more expensive to cover by a health plan than you....
I smoke cigars, and had no significant illnesses in all of my many years.
My goal is to outlive every anti-smoking person I know!
How about denying employment to those who weigh more than 5 lbs over their ideal weight as determined by a chart?
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