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To: PROCON

Personally I am far more worried about ocean acidification over warming...

Global impact is going to be far far worse if ph balance gets too out of whack.. far more likely to have a food chain collapse from that than from warming.


6 posted on 01/14/2020 6:18:28 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

The Total Myth of Ocean Acidification: Science! Edition

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/07/25/the-total-myth-of-ocean-acidification-science-edition/


37 posted on 01/14/2020 6:34:28 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Liberalism is the belief everyone else should be in treatment for your disorder.)
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To: HamiltonJay

Funny you should say that. I feel asleep in my chair watching TV last night and when I woke up at some faint hour of the early morning there was some smithsonian program on attacking fossil fuel and how it releases all this ‘ancient carbon’ and my eyes immediately started to roll because carbon is always the target. But they blamed it for ocean acidification and I always thought carbon was more of a neutral/base than an acid. So if you want to attack coal for it’s sulfur content, I get that. But these arguments surrounding carbon always seem suspicious.

Ironically, they also mentioned that in the last 50 years CO2 has increased 40% but methane has increased 100%... which I did not know so I would verify it before just trusting some TV program, but I’ve always used methane as a good example of a compound with real greenhouse properties. CO2 has negligible greenhouse properties compared to methane and according to them methane has increased a lot more. Shouldn’t this be the focus of all the news and propaganda rather than CO2?

It’s always CO2. Strange.


66 posted on 01/14/2020 6:56:24 AM PST by z3n
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To: HamiltonJay
Personally I am far more worried about ocean acidification over warming...

First, “ocean acidification” is a misnomer. The pH of ocean water averages around 8.1. A measurement greater than 7 is considered alkaline. There is much less credible evidence that anthropogenic CO2 is having any measurable affect on the average pH of ocean water than its affects on ocean temperatures.

The oceans have always acted as a vast storage medium for CO2 from the atmosphere, limestone deposits and underwater volcanic activity. When ocean water cools it absorbs more CO2 and when it warms it releases CO2. This creates another obvious paradigm that alarmists are completely oblivious to... It is the most likely explanation for the observation that atmospheric CO2 levels in the past have always risen after warmer periods and decreased after cooler periods.

I would remind you that in previous periods in the earth's history that CO2 levels were many times greater than the amounts that we have today with no known detrimental effects to sea life or the "food chain" during those time periods. All life on the earth is dependent on CO2 and the atmospheric levels in our not so distant past went so low as to have been a threat to both plant and animal life. So please do not waste your energy worrying about nonsense made up by the fertile minds of leftist idiots who completely ignore both data and the physical properties of substances such as sea water.

79 posted on 01/14/2020 7:32:12 AM PST by fireman15
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I should probably have stated the “obvious paradigm” that I was referring to. If the oceans are warming, they are releasing CO2 and becoming less “acidic” and if they are cooling they are absorbing CO2 and becoming more “acidic”. So are the oceans getting warmer and less “acidic” or are they getting cooler and more “acidic”. They really can't have it both ways. The temperature of the water has a much greater influence on the amount of CO2 absorbed than increasing the amount of CO2 from .03% of the atmosphere to .04%. The “ocean acidification” scare is complete nonsense.
83 posted on 01/14/2020 7:49:06 AM PST by fireman15
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