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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Wonder how many more Uboats Germany would of had if they had not build a useless surface fleet?


2 posted on 01/17/2020 10:55:12 AM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: MNJohnnie

That’s precisely the entire point of the article. The author concludes by throwing out loose numbers like “thousands” and “hundreds” and conjecturing how that would have changed the outcome of the war. He says the Allies would have still defeated the Axis with its greater industrial might, but it would have taken longer.


7 posted on 01/17/2020 10:58:27 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: MNJohnnie

“Wonder how many more Uboats Germany would of had if they had not build a useless surface fleet?”

The Plan Z Fleet would not be ready before 1946. By pushing the war timetable forward, Hitler essentially screwed over his Navy planners. This kind of “shooting blanks” effect happens all the time in warfare. Hitler was born in Austria-Hungary. His concept of strategic distance was Vienna to Berlin. And so he had blinders on when it came to things like the true value of a long-range Navy and strategic bombing.


21 posted on 01/17/2020 11:13:27 AM PST by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!))
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To: MNJohnnie

IIRC, the Third Reich put 800 U-boats to sea. They were wickedly effective against Allied shipping, but the various means to detect & engage them rapidly evolved.

600 U-boats were sunk during the war.


22 posted on 01/17/2020 11:13:31 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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-—Victor Davis Hanson’s great book “The Second World Wars” has some comparisons of what the Germans could have had , had they not squandered assets on such as the Bismarck and the V-2 rockets-—


31 posted on 01/17/2020 11:19:32 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the meda or government sayabout firearms or explosives--)
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To: MNJohnnie

Their ships were beautiful though.


36 posted on 01/17/2020 11:22:09 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Lots more at the start of the war.

But Hitler didn’t understand their importance in WW1 and so didn’t really support them before WW2. He, like most any guy stuck in the trenches, could understand battleships though.


92 posted on 01/17/2020 12:15:36 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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