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Tulsi Gabbard Endorses Legalizing Drugs
Forbes ^ | Jan 19, 2020, | Tom Angell

Posted on 01/19/2020 3:44:01 PM PST by conservative98

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To: entropy12

Less no-knock pre-dawn raids by swat teams, sometimes going to the wrong house.


61 posted on 01/19/2020 7:47:47 PM PST by Freee-dame
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To: entropy12

Not to mention more dead kids.

‘Legalization and regulation’ has never stopped very young people from accessing alcohol, tobacco, marijuana. How can anyone think it will stop kids from getting into even more, and more immediately dangerous, drugs? It will just make it easier.

When I was young, more ‘libertarian’, and less wise, I believed in the legalization of many things. Then I saw the American Family fall apart, and many kids go completely wayward without even the minimum of proper guidance from responsible adults. I changed my mind about the legalization of drugs, then.

A lot of the ‘adults’ in our nation will have to seriously grow up, before this idea will be safe for our society, and especially for our children.


62 posted on 01/19/2020 8:08:48 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: conservative98; NobleFree

Illegal drugs should be sold in liquor stores. The buyer can get a legal +high++ while making is easier for bureaucrats to collect delightful extra taxes.

And drive home on a cloud...
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63 posted on 01/19/2020 8:11:11 PM PST by Does so (...Democrats only believe in democracy when they win the election...)
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To: Jamestown1630

Parents are responsible for raising kids properly. Why should the tax payers be forced to pay for improperly raised kids abusing drugs?


64 posted on 01/19/2020 8:14:07 PM PST by entropy12 (You are either for free enterprise or want gov't to protect your wage levels. Can't be both.)
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To: Jamestown1630

I speak as a parent who raised 2 kids. We monitored every activity. The kids thought we were overly protective at the time. But now that they have grown up into adulthood, they both thank us for enforcing rules and disciple. Both are doing great in their careers now.


65 posted on 01/19/2020 8:18:08 PM PST by entropy12 (You are either for free enterprise or want gov't to protect your wage levels. Can't be both.)
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To: Jamestown1630
‘Legalization and regulation’ has never stopped very young people from accessing alcohol, tobacco

And marijuana criminalization has failed to keep that drug away from young people; they have been reporting since well before any state had legalized that they could get marijuana almost as easily as cigarettes or beer, although the latter two are much more widespread among adults. The available evidence indicates that the best way of keeping a drug away from young people is to legalize it for adults - which gives its sellers an economic incentive to confine their sales to adults, namely the risk of losing their legal adult market.

66 posted on 01/19/2020 8:20:54 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: entropy12

We may not be personally, individually responsible for the children of others; but we are responsible for what we legislate and which may negatively affect the children of our society in general. ‘Other Peoples’ Children’ are the future of our Nation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls7rhJbr_rk


67 posted on 01/19/2020 8:23:40 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: Does so
Illegal drugs should be sold in liquor stores. The buyer can get a legal +high++ while making is easier for bureaucrats to collect delightful extra taxes.

Better that than me paying income taxes I can't avoid to jail them.

And drive home on a cloud...

People don't get drunk at liquor stores and drive home; even a hardcore alkie can wait until he gets home to open the bottle.

68 posted on 01/19/2020 8:24:11 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Jamestown1630
we are responsible for what we legislate and which may negatively affect the children of our society in general.

Marijuana criminalization has negatively affected the children of our society in general.

69 posted on 01/19/2020 8:25:22 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: entropy12

I congratulate you. I was raised the same way that your kids were, and I am also grateful for it. It kept me out of a lot of trouble.

Unfortunately, we have many, many kids who aren’t ‘monitored’ at all; many who have been given no moral guidance; many who haven’t been taught how to think and choose wisely.

Suggesting to them that using ‘recreational’ drugs is ‘OK’ - because it’s legal, and adults do it - is only encouraging them to think that it’s harmless to indulge. They will find ways to do so, and plenty of unscrupulous adults will be happy to help them.


70 posted on 01/19/2020 8:30:21 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: Jamestown1630
Suggesting to them that using ‘recreational’ drugs is ‘OK’ - because it’s legal, and adults do it

So we should make illegal for adults everything we don't want kids doing? Alcohol? Tobacco? Sex?

71 posted on 01/19/2020 8:32:35 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: conservative98

If anyone thinks that legalization and regulation will make the war on drugs go away and end the police state practice of civil asset forfeiture they are quite mistaken.

While I’m not in favor of legalization, I believe that putting non-violent users in prison for years is not doing any good and probably making it worse.


72 posted on 01/19/2020 8:36:16 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: NobleFree

Alcohol and tobacco have been with us for centuries. I don’t think you can compare them to all of the substances available now.

I’m never exactly sure what people mean by ‘legalize and regulate’. But by what I perceive as the logical extension of your stance, we should ‘legalize and regulate’ everything possible, and make it all available to all ‘adults’.

It seems to me that we should make wise judgments about individual things, according to where we currently stand as a society, and whether we are in a position to deal appropriately with the possible consequences. And I think we’ve always done that.


73 posted on 01/19/2020 8:44:20 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: conservative98

Decriminalization is necessary but far worse things happen on the supply side. Bringing the black market into a white market would drive crime down long term. The demand side needs to be dealt with between family, friends, and health services. As remedies are concerned, the war on drugs and the prison system have been an objective failure.


74 posted on 01/19/2020 8:44:30 PM PST by ammodotcom
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To: conservative98

What could go wrong? What a dumbass.


75 posted on 01/19/2020 8:45:25 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: conservative98
Another libertarian. Liberty to murder the unborn. Liberty for 3rd world invaders to destroy what's left of America. Liberty to hook school children on pot, smack, coke. Liberty for fags to do their thing. Liberty .....

Frigging scumbag libertarians. Worse than rats.

76 posted on 01/19/2020 8:45:31 PM PST by LouAvul
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To: Leaning Right

We should have that in this country.Works pretty good in Singapore.


77 posted on 01/19/2020 8:46:42 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: JudyinCanada

Exactly


78 posted on 01/19/2020 8:48:28 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: NobleFree

You still have the pushers and that is the problem I have with it.If the pusher is the unwilling victim,TFB


79 posted on 01/19/2020 8:52:05 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Jamestown1630

If you really want to control drug abuse, forget opinions and theories. Learn from others who have either succeeded or failed. There is ZERO drug zombies in Singapore. If you want the same result, learn why Singapore has succeeded. And they do NOT spend a fortune addressing incarceration or reforming drug addicts.

Learn from others and avoid mistakes, because there is not enough time make makes and recover.


80 posted on 01/19/2020 8:52:34 PM PST by entropy12 (You are either for free enterprise or want gov't to protect your wage levels. Can't be both.)
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