Posted on 01/25/2020 3:58:02 PM PST by janetjanet998
Right? Why don’t we have cold vaccines anyway? Have worked in vaccine development...we need a solid antigen on the coat or proof that antibodies to the capsid are effective. I remember it took forever with HIV because retroviruses are so fickle.
Fair enough?
bfl
Most of the docs and nurses will be there. Support staff, lab folks...the staff that clean the floor or move people around? They will be in the dust.
I don’t get this from the AZ case:
“It’s unclear how the student contracted the illness and whether they had traveled abroad to China”
I assume if they know if she traveled to China or not because it is the main red flag so why wouldn’t they conform that.... if she didn’t travel to China then that means that someone is out there that did spreading it around
And even IF you get a vaccine that works on one strain or even a group...and it mutates again, like the flu...then what.
I think going foward the small molecule approach might be better. And in these other countries the benefit is no need for cold chain.
A prominent Australian doctor who led the World Health Organisation’s Health Emergencies Programme has died suddenly.
Doctor Peter Salama was a medical epidemiologist who led research and published extensively on vaccine-preventable diseases, HIV and war related mortality and violence.
Schumer and Pelosi always trying to tell the Pres. what to do..lolol....
By the time the choice is between their family or the patients- the system has failed anyway.
It won’t matter.
ignore post 645
other reports say she just returned from China
Nope. They deserve it. I am not alone in thinking this way.
new thread and updated numbers incoming
I think it has alot to do with whether they have kids, I have said I would probably be there to help (although I am ER Clerk), nurses that said they would not be there had small children at home. I don’t so that’s what makes the difference for me. Of course no one knows until it happens. We’ll just have to wait and see, and hope and pray no one ends up in that position.
Also, we have small critical access hospital. Not sure that makes a difference.
1-27 thread
371 new cases and 24 new deaths in Hubei province, China.
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3811190/posts
Is there a ping list for these daily threads?
Bought n95 yesterday at Lowe’s.
They went and got more. Half are gone
Florida
Waiting for n99s and refill filters to arrive now.
According to Amazon, 6 stops away
I do trust the biotech community having worked among them for about ten years in three different states.
They are the folk we want in place, imo.
Physicians know almost nothing about virology or immunology, having worked among them for some 30 years...They always came to the !ab to ask questions. LOl.
You do know it already has mutated, right? And coronaviruses continue to mutate in humans. Mutation is kind of a given. The Wuhan exonuclease is the transmission variable of this baby that is causing all the immediate responses, imo.
As they say, the Spanish flu was mostly a large killer not because of its virulence but because it got around so well. Much love to you my FRiend.
I'm not in a position to be familiar either with the mutated nucleotide sequences, nor the changes either in surface proteins or anything else, to know whether these changes
a) affect the spread
b) affect the cytokine response
c) will mean that infection with one great-grandchild strain or later, will confer immunity to other more dangerous strains.
I do remember reading that after the 1918 Spanish flu, there was a second subsequent wave, less deadly but still troublesome, the next year.
But the problem with the Spanish flu was the cytokine storm, *not* secondary bacterial infections.
Today's critter looks like it putters along for a week or two, then suddenly explodes in the lungs.
Some of the more unhinged online writings -- which you'll note I did NOT propagate -- said that this virus was spliced together as a biological weapon to ensure maximum spread, followed by a late fatal response. Hope that's not true.
I don't know the state of the art for sequencing that one can accurately predict the exact 3-D protein structure ab initio from the genetic sequence; still less the human immunological response.
Will continue to watch and pray.
Let us all remain vigilant and support one another.
That is why am have said I trust nothing coming out of China. We will unfortunately have our own numbers soon.
Update
2506
cases
80
deaths
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