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Windows 10 isn’t the most vulnerable operating system – it’s actually Linux
TechRadar ^ | 3/9/2020 | Darren Allan

Posted on 03/09/2020 12:34:26 PM PDT by TomServo

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To: Swordmaker

It’s a particularly disappointing and overall stupid article. See my comments to rarestia at #40.


41 posted on 03/09/2020 8:49:45 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: Secret Agent Man
From an attack vector perspective, which platform has more market penetration and specifically, outside of protected Data Centers?

Windows, or Linux?

Answer: WINDOWS. The number of home and small business Linux users is a tiny fraction of that of Windows. And that's why Windows gets attacked and hacked with far more success than Linux: there's far more of them and the majority of home and small business users have no idea how to secure their systems.

42 posted on 03/09/2020 8:51:05 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Swordmaker
As per usual, reported vulnerabilities are not reported exploits.

Game, Set, Match right there.

43 posted on 03/09/2020 8:53:02 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: dayglored

ok- head is swimming- is htis article stating linux is more vulnerable to viruses than windows? I’ve always read just hte opposite?


44 posted on 03/09/2020 9:23:00 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: usconservative

Yes. I think its safe to say for much of unix/linux’s life, it wasn’t geared to be a user-friendly gui o/s. Original windows slapped gui on top of dos, and gradually merged itself into its own graphical o/s. But gui over dos is where windows got its large original user base.


45 posted on 03/09/2020 9:25:22 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
FTR, I am a Linux user. I *had* Windows in my home up to this past weekend when I finally formatted the SSD drives in my Ryzen 2700x and installed Ubuntu 19.10. It took some hunting and pecking on Github to find the right 8812au WiFi driver for my TP-Link T9UH but once I found the right one, managed to get it to compile and install this baby is a screamer. 8 CPU Cores, 16 threads, 32GB of Memory and an SSD RAID Array and this thing is greased lightning.

Everything I used to be able to do on Windows I can do on Linux with suitable open source replacements and for those I cannot find, there's WINE which just works.

I may get around to putting a Windows 10 VM on this thing for anything I need on Windows that I cannot find on Linux but am not anticipating doing that anytime soon. I'm so glad I finally made the cutover. Been wanting to do it for a long time and had time over the weekend. Woo hoo!!

46 posted on 03/09/2020 9:41:21 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

im not on windows 10. my latest version is 7.


47 posted on 03/09/2020 9:45:16 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Bob434
> ok- head is swimming- is htis article stating linux is more vulnerable to viruses than windows? I’ve always read just hte opposite?

The article is crap. It does not prove its claim, its premise is flawed, and it makes a number of dumb mistakes.

All operating systems have vulnerabilities. Some are serious, some are trivial, and this article stupidly equates them all. Some are exploitable, some are in fact exploited, others are merely errors that don’t mean much, and again, this article equates them all. Merely counting vulnerabilities is essentially meaningless.

The article has an agenda — to say that Windows is more secure than Linux. Whether it is or is not is not supported by the article’s content.

48 posted on 03/09/2020 9:59:47 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: dayglored

thanks for the reply- in your opinion, do you think linux is still more secure online than windows as far as viruses go? I know it will be just an opinion- but you know more about this stuff than i do - I was under hte impression that browsing net with linux was mostly pretty safe? Which was a big reason why i switched to linux as my main online os


49 posted on 03/09/2020 10:05:01 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: usconservative

I bought the Ryzen 5 1600 for $100 off at Microcenter. Got a pretty good CPU for $80 - a real steal (no I didn’t actually steal it).


50 posted on 03/09/2020 10:25:40 PM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: Bob434
> thanks for the reply- in your opinion, do you think linux is still more secure online than windows as far as viruses go? I know it will be just an opinion- but you know more about this stuff than i do - I was under hte impression that browsing net with linux was mostly pretty safe? Which was a big reason why i switched to linux as my main online os

Linux is a more secure operating system than Windows. Does that make it safer for web browsing than Windows? It depends at least as much on the browser, and your settings, these days. In very general terms, privacy-oriented browsers (like Brave and Firefox) are at least as important to web surfing safety as which OS they’re running on.

That said, I believe that Linux is less likely to get malware, if only because more malware is written to take advantage of Windows flaws than Linux flaws.

Personally I don’t use Windows or Windows-based browsers like IE for web browsing. I use Brave or Firefox on either MacOS or Linux, and consider those combinations roughly equivalent in safety. I use Windows to run Windows-only programs, and none of the programs I run require that I be surfing the web too.

51 posted on 03/09/2020 10:29:28 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: dayglored

ok thanks- Yep- i use firefox- and only use linux for web stuff - I use windows for photoshop and windows only games, and don’t go online (Except when I’m stuck on a game in windows- and have to go online to find an answer- but stick to major websites for answers like CNET or Gamespot)

I suppose i should run a Virtual machine fro online when in windows though- too lazy though lol- I used to shut of network connections to the net while in windows- but that is a pain- even though i had a shortcut icon to network connections- i would always forget to use it- I do keep a Macrium Reflect snap shot in windows, just incase- but it’s old- last resort revert if needed-


52 posted on 03/09/2020 11:12:55 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: TomServo; rdb3; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; martin_fierro; Still Thinking; zeugma; Vinnie; ...

Tech Ping


53 posted on 03/10/2020 3:28:11 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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54 posted on 03/10/2020 3:48:11 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: TomServo

I think everybody who follows the vulnerability mailing lists already knew this.


55 posted on 03/10/2020 5:01:36 AM PDT by cartan
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To: Red Badger

+1!


56 posted on 03/10/2020 5:31:38 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: minnesota_bound

Just the opposite here. I run Norton 360, MalwareBytes Premium and CCleaner on both my 2009 HP Compaq 6000 Pro Microtower (Win-7 Pro x64), and they perform flawlessly. Never had a BSoD, or virus, ever. And have had Norton for MANY years.


57 posted on 03/10/2020 5:43:35 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: TomServo

Very little damage can be done to a Unix based OS without having ‘root’ access/password. This article is a joke, right?


58 posted on 03/10/2020 5:47:28 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn....)
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To: dayglored
This article, sorry to say, is crap, from premise to conclusion, because it doesn't provide support for its conclusion. Whether its claim is true or false is almost beside the point (after all, who bloody cares? Every OS has vulnerabilities).

The article doesn't appear to discriminate between local and remote exploits. Since I'm the only 'user' on my system, I do not worry so much about local exploits, as I can normally trust myself not to hack my systems, unless I've had too much beer.

Another example of the article's absurdity is that it doesn't differentiate much at all between base system services, and the kernel and any of the thousands of applications one might have installed. Saying that linux is exploitable because Libre Office has a security vulnerability of some kind would mean you'd also have to include all of MS-Office and any other MS-Windows software in the counts as well.

This is pretty much FUD for people who don't know any better. Since I keep my Linux boxes pretty well patched, I actually worry more about my router(s) than my workstations. Routers, especially those provided by the various ISPs are notoriously bad at keeping themselves patched. It's something I check occasionally. Since I use DD-WRT internally I feel better about my internal network than I do about my ISP router.

59 posted on 03/10/2020 7:02:31 AM PDT by zeugma (I sure wish I lived in a country where the rule of law actually applied to those in power.)
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To: wastedyears

I got my 2700x pretty cheap at Microcenter, I think it was $199 if I recall correctly. I bundled it with a ASUS ROG 470X mobo. This thing just screams on Ubuntu 19.10


60 posted on 03/10/2020 7:06:24 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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