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The doctor interviewed claims that this bug is causing huge gridlock at ICU's in a way the flu isn't, even though estimated flu infection numbers exceed this bug by at least two orders of magnitude.
1 posted on 03/11/2020 10:54:24 AM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Zhang Fei

So now we’re recycling old propagana that originated on twitter? You people have lost your fricking minds.


2 posted on 03/11/2020 10:56:41 AM PDT by JoSixChip (I'm an American Nationalist)
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Easily believable, especially if you’ve ever seen or been inside the Italian Health System.

The Italian System is very modern and capable, but they are not equipped to handle this level of volume and their infrastructure is being critically taxed.

Join me in buying Italian products and drinking Italian wine during this lockdown. #wineduringlockdown is trending on Twitter. Help my countrymen any way possible.

Forza Italia!


3 posted on 03/11/2020 11:00:04 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue
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Awww c’mon, it’s just the flu... /s


4 posted on 03/11/2020 11:05:52 AM PDT by bkopto
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Fellow Freepers, read this diagnosis the quoted doctor laments. Understand its seriousness and behave accordingly.

“diagnosis, which is always the damned same: bilateral interstitial pneumonia.”


5 posted on 03/11/2020 11:06:30 AM PDT by amihow
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We get it. Stay away from sneezing, coughing people with snot on their hands. The constant, unending barrage of COVID stories, encouraging panic is getting tiresome. We get it.


11 posted on 03/11/2020 11:17:49 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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Gee... wonder what’s going to happen next year when the 29 million or so of us who get the typical flu freak out and head to the hospitals? Talk about overwhelmed. How many folks are showing up at a hospitals now because they just got themselves a sniffle or a cough due to seasonal allergies? How many folks are calling in sick... but really are just laying out? Everyone is in such a panic they won’t even eat lunch together where I am and there isn’t even a case of the WUFLU in the entire state!!!


17 posted on 03/11/2020 11:25:23 AM PDT by Mathews (Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV), Luke 22:36 (NIV))
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Quote from Daily Mail article, one of few to tell the truth:

Experts have warned Italy has a higher death rate than expected because its population is older than average.

24 posted on 03/11/2020 11:40:23 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Zhang Fei

The cases are more severe and require longer and more invasive treatment than the flu. The normal ICU load (probably around 90% to start) was overwhelmed the first day.

He is not talking about ICU beds. He is talking about any bed.

Not saying it’s going to happen everywhere. But it coming to a big city hospital near you soon. It is unavoidable.

But yeah, It’s the flu Bro.


28 posted on 03/11/2020 11:48:55 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Zhang Fei

Basic difference:
The flu is upper respiratory.
Wusan is lower respiratory - pneumonia-like


34 posted on 03/11/2020 1:01:07 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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37 posted on 03/11/2020 1:24:10 PM PDT by wtd
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Italy has 60 million people, about 1/5th of our population.

We have about 200,000 people on an average year who get hospitalized with the flu, although I’ve read on some years it gets as high as 600,000. Assume at any one point, we have about 20,000 people being treated for the flu.

Italy should have been ready to handle 4,000 people with pnemonia at any one time, if they had the same level of care as we do, just to handle possible flu cases. Although we have a LOT more beds than 20,000. (I think we have 90,000 or so). If Italy is like us, then they should have 16,000 ICU beds.

Italy currently has 10,500 active cases, of which only 1028 are listed as “critical”. If you assume that half the non-critical cases are still requiring ICU, that’s about 6000 ICU beds they need, and they should have 16,000, so if they don’t have 10,000 flu cases being treated, they should have had enough space for this.

Of course, probably not in the one specific are being impacted. And I’m not sure if they are transporting cases to other hospitals. Hopefully they are setting up emergency hospitals.

Unfortunately, they are getting zero help from their EU “partners”. In our country, the states will help each other out, so long as the infection is hitting specific states, and not spread out to the entire population.


41 posted on 03/11/2020 1:51:21 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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Well, when you tell your population that they’re going to die and seek medical attention then they seek medical attention, needed or not.


71 posted on 03/13/2020 8:55:11 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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