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'Miracle' malaria drug touted by Trump saved me from coronavirus, claim Americans: Infected patients across US say hydroxychloroquine helped them recover – despite experts' insistence evidence of its effectiveness is slim
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 3/23/20 | Valerie Edwards

Posted on 03/23/2020 9:53:16 PM PDT by NoLibZone

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To: reasonisfaith; All
Why do Trump’s enemies want to make people think this treatment won’t work?

This MIGHT BE the last shot they have at Trump.

1. The stock market and economy are in shambles

2. They can hide quid pro Joe because every time this old fool opens his mouth....

3. Speaking of Joe, nobody cares about the $Billions stolen from Ukraine

WHY DOES THE VIRUS' PARALYSIS OF THE US HAVE TO CONTINUE?

SIMPLE ANSWER: Trump will be very vulnerable if Dow is low and job numbers look like a depression.

If there is a relatively simple strategy with an available malaria drug and zinc supplements, then Trump will win. The left can NOT allow this to happen. If thousands or millions die because the left is successful in shutting down a cure, then the left will consider it worthwhile.

You might not consider it worthwhile as you attend your third funeral for a family member in a month's time.

SCIENTIFIC AMERICA ARTICLE: False Hope about Coronavirus Treatments --President Trump misspoke in a recent press conference: there are no approved treatments

March 20, 2020 — Kelly McBride Folkers and Arthur Caplan

SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN ARTICLE FREE FOR CORONAVIRUS TOPICS

If you wondered about Kelly's political thoughts, the picture says it all. Kelly is the one in the middle.

This smiling YL will kill thousands to get President Trump defeated in November. So what if your spouse or children dies too?

You might also look at Dr. Fauci's statements in the same way. He also does NOT want people using what might be a simple treatment.

21 posted on 03/23/2020 11:33:54 PM PDT by politicianslie (Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells-Indictments on the way, Oh what fun it will Be as The SWAMP get Drained!)
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To: MHGinTN; Karl Spooner

Exactly. This is all about the money, and when the entire course of treatment for a worldwide plague costs only $12, that isn’t acceptable to the drug companies or anyone hoping to be employed by them once they leave government service. From Fauci on down, it is a corrupt system full of corrupt people hiding behind the rules and procedures that they, or others like them, made


22 posted on 03/23/2020 11:41:42 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: MHGinTN

HCQ has a half-life measured in weeks. 200mg/day for an extended period could result in toxicity.

1 tab/wk would be a safer maintenance after therapeutic level achieved.


23 posted on 03/24/2020 12:15:13 AM PDT by gasport (Pray for the people of Captive China)
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To: Ancesthntr

“From Fauci on down, it is a corrupt system full of corrupt people hiding behind the rules and procedures that they, or others like them, made“

PotUS is speaking normal ‘mercan. Fauci is speaking precise doctortalk.
Different languages.


24 posted on 03/24/2020 12:23:07 AM PDT by gasport (Pray for the people of Captive China)
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To: Ancesthntr

It is far more than a cure.
It is also a prophylactic.
People already taking it, do not contract the virus if they come in contact with it.

That’s better than a quarantine.

Since I am opposed to the economic damage and impingement on freedom which comes with a quarantine I suppose use of hydroxychloroquine for those who don’t have an adverse reaction...and getting the United States back to work.


25 posted on 03/24/2020 12:31:28 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: NoLibZone

Fauci doesn’t like small studies

If it’s not in a peer reviewed paper he ignores it

Trump is a good enough guy. He knows that the search for perfect always fails


26 posted on 03/24/2020 12:47:28 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster; MHGinTN

Dr. Oz is working with Columbia University to do a 100 patient trial in NYC starting Immediately.

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6144015101001#sp=show-clips

We should have more information from multiple sources in a week.


27 posted on 03/24/2020 2:42:27 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: MHGinTN
…”Hydroxychloroquine is being slow walked ... until 1000 per treatment drugs can get FDA approval. The cure is too inexpensive, so sheeple must be diverted from knowing a cure and excellent prophylaxis is available NOW. Every healthcare worker in the US should be on 200mg per day with a zinc supplement.”...

Exactly. I have lived much of my life with medical (doctors on the front lines and nurses..academic historians and the corporate executive world, and I can definitely tell you that deep state politics effects every institution which lives on years of being able to tell people what to do and when to do it. When you take doctors out of the medical environment and put them in charge of a bureaucracy, they become bureaucrats after years of holding those positions. I trust the scientist but I do not want him as my economist, my banker, my grocer, my farmer, my gardener, my pastor or priest or my hair stylist. Too many times, the political urge and the feeling of importance in men and women who have high degrees overwhelms actual common sense. We have a good President and he listens to the experts, but now we are coming to a situation in this nation where an economic depression will kill far more people, probably of all ages and definitely, ruin the lives of a vast majority of our population if the secluding of our businesses and our work is allowed to go on much longer. President Trump and his economic experts who do not try to tell us all about everything they are not trained in, know this. He will not let us go down in order to protect what someone else has declared about his virus. We do not even have all the information we need about the coronavirus. My very Mother used to take a quinine-like tablet for her leg cramps back in the day. She lived to be 90. It is madness not to make such a drug available to all who care for those with the flu and others who are vulnerable. Let's see how it works. We have nothing to lose except some faith that the high and mighty do not know everything. The brights lights and the big city and being on TV everyday is VERY appealing but not of much help to normal people who are getting more and more anxious. Turn off the TV. I believe Gov. Cuomo loves his people in NY and I know he will use whatever can protect them. Then, he and President Trump will let us know whether it works. In the meantime, as the sun comes out, put on your shorts and your short sleeves and soak up some of it. It could help more than any of us know, added to our prayers, of course.

28 posted on 03/24/2020 3:26:41 AM PDT by jazzlite (,)
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To: Nifster
Fauci is "insurance" for the DNC,
and the operator to murder Americans by preventing
prophylaxis and cheap therapy.

Fauci is for: vaccination.

Want to know more?

Who profits?

Bloomberg and Gates will profit greatly from these deaths,
and may have been the origin:
2020 - Jie Li of Belmont will infect Biogen, SF, and then other locales
before she flees back to China.

2019 - Biogen partners with Vir Biotechnology in 2019.

Plan is about corona virus(es).

Vir Biotechnology Inc. (NASDAQ:VIR) announced a partnership with Biogen Inc. (NASDAQ:BIIB)
for the development and clinical manufacturing of human mAbs
for the potential treatment of COVID-19.


Who is Vir Biotechnology? - founded by Bill Gates, Mike Bloomberg, and Gates Family Fund.
Associated with non-profit to push mandatory vaccines, and
Vir Biotechnology partners with Arch Partners [San Francisco] buys vaccine research from
Oregon HealthSU (which remained funded by Oregon taxpayers) as OHSU is given Vir Biotechnology stock.

2020 - Vir Biotechnology, Biogen, and Chinese Wuxi Biologics work together.

Vir Biotechnology - Stock up by more than 300%, as it announces it is working on monoclonal antibodies
for perhaps its very own, now transmitted around the world, coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2

29 posted on 03/24/2020 3:31:04 AM PDT by Diogenesis ( WWG1WGA)
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To: NoLibZone
despite experts' insistence evidence of its effectiveness is slim

Slim but growing every day...as fast as the virus.

30 posted on 03/24/2020 3:42:23 AM PDT by stevem
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To: FreedomPoster

The more the better


31 posted on 03/24/2020 5:34:34 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Diogenesis

Fauci is a researcher. God only knows the last time he saw a clinical patient.

Trump has taken the handcuffs off. Docs are free to use it off register.... they can administer if they think it helps


32 posted on 03/24/2020 5:37:15 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: rwoodward

This virus should have put a silver bullet in the back of this administration. Luckily Trump dodged the bullet by cutting off China border. This was a genius move that nobody will credit him for.
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Trump gets nothing but criticism and ridicule. They still remain convinced he is stupid. Closing the border was a big, bold move, but his seizing onto and refusing to let go of Chloroquine is his game changer.


33 posted on 03/24/2020 5:55:16 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: NoLibZone

All kinds of crazy talk going around about cheap off patent antiparasitic drugs, why the next thing you know they’ll be thinking cheap off patent antiparasitic drugs cure cancer - oh, wait.


34 posted on 03/24/2020 6:10:54 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

“...Ever wonder how RBG has recovered from pancreatic cancer at her age, or Jimmy Carter of brain cancer at 89 years old just sayin!! If Steve Jobs had not decided on his own to go to holistic healing he would be walking around today!!!...”

Most definitely. This crisis has somewhat “lifted the sheets” to reveal just how the bureaucrats are in bed with Big Pharma...greedy, corrupt and evil.
Yeah. It should make anyone wonder what they’ve done with diseases, such as cancer. Have these vile, greedy SOBs squashed a cure for the promotion of treatment instead? They can’t have the “unwashed masses’ knowing that there is a cure when they can “kill two birds with one stone “ (no pun intended) by raking in trillions of dollars off the continuous, high-dollar treatments and reduce the population at the same time. As usual, follow the money trail.
As far as our “esteemed elites” are concerned, they get the very best medical care in the entire world, including cures/treatments that the “unwashed masses” have probably never even heard of. It’s probably quite similar to our corrupt, two-tiered justice system. Great for me, but none for thee.


35 posted on 03/24/2020 7:40:37 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (Libs are a virus.....the DemoVirus!!)
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To: NoLibZone

If I was traveling to Congo, Africa, my doctor would give me these drugs as a prevention for malaria. If I’m not exposed, no harm, no foul.

If (as an inner city medic) I suspected someone overdosed on a narcotic but didn’t know for sure, I would administer Narcan. If they didn’t overdose, no harm, no foul. They wouldn’t be effected at all. If they did, it could save their crappy life.

Just give the damn drug. Pretend like they’re going to West Africa or something. Geeeez!


36 posted on 03/24/2020 7:47:53 AM PDT by David Chase
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To: gasport

Thanks


37 posted on 03/24/2020 10:45:27 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: gasport

What is the LD50?


38 posted on 03/24/2020 11:18:03 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

1240mg/kg (mouse)

https://www.fishersci.com/store/msds?partNumber=AC263010250&productDescription=HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE+SULF+25GR&vendorId=VN00032119&countryCode=US&language=en


39 posted on 03/24/2020 11:31:45 AM PDT by gasport (Pray for the people of Captive China)
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To: gasport

The following from Wiki:

Overdose
Due to rapid absorption, symptoms of overdose can occur within a half an hour after ingestion. Overdose symptoms include convulsions, drowsiness, headache, heart problems or heart failure, difficulty breathing and vision problems.

Hydroxychloroquine overdoses are rarely reported, with seven previous cases found in the English medical literature. In one such case, a 16-year-old girl who had ingested a handful of hydroxychloroquine 200mg presented with tachycardia (heart rate 110 beats/min), hypotension (systolic blood pressure 63 mm Hg), central nervous system depression, conduction defects (QRS = 0.14 msec), and hypokalemia (K = 2.1 meq/L). Treatment consisted of fluid boluses and dopamine, oxygen, and potassium supplementation. The presence of hydroxychloroquine was confirmed through toxicologic tests. The patient’s hypotension resolved within 4.5 hours, serum potassium stabilized in 24 hours, and tachycardia gradually decreased over three days.[18]


40 posted on 03/24/2020 11:34:34 AM PDT by gasport (Pray for the people of Captive China)
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