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24,000 dead from flu so far this season, CDC says (39 million illnesses)
Fox 6 Now ^ | 3/29/20

Posted on 03/29/2020 10:00:26 AM PDT by Libloather

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To: The_Media_never_lie

Of course the MSM won’t do this because it would destroy their manufactured house-of-cards. This is their last gasp, their hail-Mary to take out Trump. They will push this in any way and at all costs to put it all on Trump.


21 posted on 03/29/2020 11:00:46 AM PDT by Bellagio
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To: Libloather

Well, it’s true.

Advertising works.


22 posted on 03/29/2020 11:01:10 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Libloather

swine flu 14000 dead Americans and no one noticed


23 posted on 03/29/2020 11:07:13 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (nicdip.com)
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To: Libloather

And those flu numbers might be down this year because people are self isolating for coronavirus....


24 posted on 03/29/2020 11:08:44 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: BenLurkin

“...you die;she dies;everybody dies.”


25 posted on 03/29/2020 11:22:57 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Libloather

A reasonable person would ask what the reason is for the discrepancy. Flu kills, nobody cares. Chinee virus kills, mass hysteria.


26 posted on 03/29/2020 11:31:28 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The US media is the most destructive, mendacious irresponsible institution that there is.)
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To: Libloather
Right now there are 2351 deaths in the USA by COVID-19, 1/10th of the Flu. Why was the country not shut down for the Flu? Why were people not ordered to stay inside their homes?

What are we not being told?

27 posted on 03/29/2020 12:03:51 PM PDT by Lockbox
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To: Lockbox

“Right now there are 2351 deaths in the USA by COVID-19, 1/10th of the Flu. “
The problem is that of those 2351 Covid19 deaths, 525 occurred yesterday. If the flu season lasts 100 days, that’s 52,500 deaths. And in Spain, Italy, and France, the daily deaths increased quite a bit, reaching 900 per day in Italy 2 days ago. The US has 5 times the population of Italy, so if we follow their pattern we will have 4,500 deaths per day here, and if that continues for 100 days that will be 450,000 people dead. I know it sounds trivial, but for many of the dead people it will be very upsetting.


28 posted on 03/29/2020 12:30:30 PM PDT by brookwood (Obama said you could keep your plan - Sanders says higher taxes will improve the weather)
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To: Libloather

Holy hell! We need to shut the economy down right now!

Oh, wait...


29 posted on 03/29/2020 12:39:20 PM PDT by Newtoidaho (All I ask of living is to have no chains on me.)
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To: Libloather

Not to mention that Heart Diseas is still the #1 killer in the US. # 2, 3 and 4 are 3 distinct forms of cancer.

Sepsis acquired while in the hospital for some other reason is in the top 4 somewhere.

There are 2.8 million deaths in the US per year, 54,000 per week. 7,700 per day.

At age 74 I have more chance to die in a vehicle crash than from Coronavirus. It almost happened today. On a Sunday Drive I made a leisurely left turn at a deserted intersection and did not realize that a car was doing about 90 mph and quickly came up behind me and was pissed that I was only doing 65.

Be concerned don’t take chances with coronavirus for the same reason you don’t take chances on the highway. But don’t panic. There is no reason to panic.


30 posted on 03/29/2020 1:10:02 PM PDT by spintreebob
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31 posted on 03/30/2020 9:49:32 PM PDT by bitt (forget the electric chair..we're gonna need electric bleachers!)
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To: hardspunned
That's right...for an average estimate of 43,000 dead of influenza complications.

More than 13 times that of Wuhan-19.

13+ times more. That's significant.

32 posted on 03/30/2020 9:55:51 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Libloather

So how many of those were COVID-19? On the fatalities we will never know...on the recovered we can do a “post-season debrief” stats/research with antibody/serology tests for COVID-19.


33 posted on 03/30/2020 10:01:26 PM PDT by Drago
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They call us flubros.

I think the worst pandemic we have is calling everything a bro. ha

They don’t like pointing out simple facts. They openly say “oh just up about the flu, we are too busy panicking”.

Here is some perspective: I recorded a PBS show about Garth Brooks getting the Library of Congress Gershwin Award for Popular Song just last night, March 29th.

It was recorded live on March 4th, 2020. That’s just 25 days ago. The theater was packed. Many Congressmen were there from Nancy Pelosi, Steny Hoyer, Patrick Lehey, Kevin McCarther, Jim Jordans, and more.

No panic. No social distancing. Not even a word about this virus. NOTHING.

So I’m now supposed to just shut up and watch our economy die while they partied 25 DAYS AGO.

Since then 3000 Covid deaths (if you believe that) and 6000 from plain flu on avearge which we have vaccines for.

I also believe if you got drunk, ran off the road, hit a tree and died and the autopsy should you had the Covid, they’d count it as a Covid death.


34 posted on 03/30/2020 10:02:02 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Might as well cut your leg off to cure a headache. Destroy America because of a flu.)
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To: Fledermaus

I also believe if you got drunk, ran off the road, hit a tree and died and the autopsy should you had the Covid, they’d count it as a Covid death.
= = = = = = =
I also believe they are ‘cooking the books.’
There could be an airline crash and if ‘they’ say the pilot was diagnosed etc they would attribute ALL 150(or so) deaths to the beervirus....TECHNICALLY, if the pilot ACTUALLY tested positive and it was proved he died because of it etc they would be ‘technically’ right BUT not right for this ‘exercise’

This is the same as when they reference some ‘tragic event’ some 25 years ago they will say “800 dead from the actual storm-BUT- the total rises to 3500 counting all the complications from the storm” etc etc etc

Lets cut off the FUNDING for this and watch the numbers go down AND maybe we will start getting an ‘honest count’. As long as there is a ‘reward’ for the diagnosed victims, the numbers will rise astronomically.

FOLLOW THE MONEY


35 posted on 03/30/2020 10:09:26 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98"HRC is the Grandmother that lures Hansel & Gretel to the pot")
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To: xrmusn

Amen. Their jobs depend on the crises.


36 posted on 03/30/2020 10:12:17 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Might as well cut your leg off to cure a headache. Destroy America because of a flu.)
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To: Drago
"So how many of those were COVID-19?"

Probably not many, because the 24,000 - 62,000 flu deaths is within the historic range. We have many years of data on this. And that data is obtained via testing for flu.

The reverse, however, is more likely. Why? Testing. Data. More specifically, testing. Meaning, how many who are said to have died due to Wuhan-19, especially prior to increased testing/accuracy, actually died of another respiratory illness. Like influenza.

In Italy, for example:

"In the absence of detailed data and testing, it is impossible to know exactly how many deaths in elderly care homes may be due to COVID-19 or to other causes like seasonal influenza or pneumonia. "

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-homes-insigh/uncounted-among-coronavirus-victims-deaths-sweep-through-italys-nursing-homes-idUSKBN2152V0
37 posted on 03/30/2020 10:44:10 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

Yep, too early for accurate analysis...need a year and an antibody/serology test to detect people that had WuhanSARS-CoV-2 and recovered at home/are now immune. That being said 500 fatalities a day in the US is hard to ignore....that would lead to 165,000+ fatalities over the rest of the flu season/year, barring getting a vaccine in less than 10 months. The truth is somewhere between the “FluBro” and “hair on fire”/”end of the world” positions. My “WAG”...a 0.25% fatality rate...just under 2x as bad as “regular flu” strains. If a vaccine is put into use before next Fall then I will have to revise down my estimate.


38 posted on 03/30/2020 10:59:54 PM PDT by Drago
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"500 fatalities a day in the US is hard to ignore"

If we take the average of the estimate for flu, it's 43,000 deaths this season, which "generally" begins in October.
10/2019 till now is 182 days.

That means, on average, ~236 people died of flu every single day during this season so far. Of course, there were peaks (Jan/Feb being deadliest) and valleys (start & end of "season). The data is hard to find, but I'll bet there were days where influenza deaths hit ~500 per day.

With the flu, the "country" doesn't blink.

With Wuhan-19, the country shuts itself down, with the increasing chance of purposely introducing a depression. (thought not by direct intention by the non-progressives.)

I believe, when this Wuhan-19 season is done, the "mortality" rate will be no more than 1%*. Major asterisk there!

Since we don't have the testing data for the entire season, like we do with the flu, the adjusted...real mortality rate would likely be far less than that.

The progressives and never Trumper's in our country have created this panic...this hysteria. They latched onto this thing as a means to continue their ongoing coup.

Wuhan-19 must be taken as seriously as the seasonal flu, or as pneumonia which is deadlier than the flu.

Essentially shutting down our entire country is an over reaction.

39 posted on 03/30/2020 11:59:35 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

Adding WuFlu death count to the existing flu season (hospitals routinely run at 85%-95% capacity during normal Winter/flu seasons) over-stresses the system and then leads to additional deaths. Take the Corps of Engineers field hospitals that are now needed in New York for example. Also, pneumonia is a side effect of flu (bacteriological in regular flu/can be treated with antibiotics, vs viral in COVID-19...far fewer treatment options). Time will tell.


40 posted on 03/31/2020 12:23:27 AM PDT by Drago
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