Posted on 04/21/2020 2:57:04 PM PDT by nickcarraway
Spice! Sandworms! Sting! What's not to like about this 1984 sci-fi bomb?
Double the Dune, double the nightmare? Director Denis Villeneuve plans to release two films to fully encompass the knotty complexities of Frank Herberts epic 1965 sci-fi novel about the battle for control over production of spice (essentially ultra-rare petrol, and just as mad to snort) on a desert planet called Arrakis infested with worms the size of tube trains. Much to the concern of anyone with any experience of previous efforts to bring the novel to screen.
Alejandro Jodorowsky aborted his early 70s vision of a psychedelic 10-hour version starring Mick Jagger and Salvador Dali and scored by Pink Floyd as its sheer scale and ambition terrified the money men, and David Lynchs 1984 effort was derided by sci-fi fans and critics for its near comic incomprehensibility and a screenplay seemingly written by a million insane monkeys.
Read more: Dune: release date, plot details, cast and everything we know so far Plot-wise, its not easy to explain Dune, but well give it a go. Duke Leto Atreides son Paul (a young Kyle MacLachlan) is part of a space-witch plot to create a super-being who can defeat Emperor Shaddam IVs legions of Sardaukar troops by drinking some sacred water that turns his eyes bright blue and makes him the messiah of the lost tribes of the Fremen who oh never mind.
Returning to Lynchs Arrakis over 35 years on, though, hindsight is kind to it. Yes, its special effects struggle to match the grandeur and spectacle of The Adam And Joe Show, making it look five years after Alien and sixteen after 2001: A Space Odyssey like a low-budget homage to the Sinbad creature features of the mid-70s. Spaceships resemble cheap cigar cases or floating doorstops, personal force fields predict the graphics of Minecraft and there are surrealist dream sequences that look like the end segment of 2001 populated by planet-zapping space slugs. And thats not to mention the poorly green-screened gigantic sandworms with all the magnificent menace of a garden hose, and some of the most ridiculous eyebrows to be found in this or any other galaxy.
Add in one of the fastest on-screen romances this side of PornHub (nought to snog inside a few seconds of screen-time) and the mystical voiceovers trying and often failing to inject some sense into whats going on and its enough to make Lynchs Dune a cult curio in the same way that, say, Bowies Labyrinth is; a film to leave you chuckling in wonderment that something so expensive (it was a $10 million loss-maker on release) could look so cheap. With his original three-hour edit chopped and altered mercilessly, Lynch himself certainly wasnt happy, disowning some versions of the film by having his name replaced with the nom de plume of disgraced legend Alan Smithee and refusing to discuss the film in interviews to this day.
But it has more value than as the comic interlude in a stoned Lynch marathon. It might highlight how clumsily Lynch could handle a straightforward blockbuster plot, back in the days when he indulged such outmoded concepts, but its also a notable example of his early surrealism too. If Eraserhead was overtly icky, Dune exemplified the more dream-like fantasy tones that would come to characterise Lynchs work, as Paul became increasingly lost in metaphorical visions of moons, hands and prophesies. It acts almost as a mainstream dry run for the Wizard Of Oz scenes in 1990s Wild At Heart, and the suffocating atmosphere of Twin Peaks.
Dune also upped the game for the sci-fi blockbuster, even if the film itself failed to realise its own possibilities. The original Star Wars trilogy opened the door for the creation of elaborate distant universes and successfully transposed simple Wild West narratives into this ultimate final frontier setting. But Dune, like Blade Runner and 2001, aimed at depth, intricacy and wider socio-political meaning in what was becoming a fairly shallow, effects-led cinematic genre; to use science fiction to echo the complexities of our world, not escape them. In that sense it helped pave the way for more thoughtful and ambitious sci-fi epics Gravity, Interstellar, Arrival, films based on grand conceits rather than phaser-blasted action. It did what Herberts novel had intended it to do it widened the sci-fi scope.
There are moments in it to savour too, most delivered by Kenneth McMillans brilliantly bubonic Baron Harkonnen, floating around smothered in blood and oil, as grotesque a villain as ever graced the multiplex. And theres head-shaking pleasure to be found in a sneering Sting, playing the Barons most six-packed nephew, deciding that the best time to take someone on in an unnecessary knife fight is just after theyve been widely accepted as an all-powerful superhuman deity.
It wont be hard for Villeneuves Dune to improve on Lynchs original, but it will be tough to match its buried root impact on sci-fi and cinema, which has been rumbling along beneath the sand for decades.
It’s not nearly as bad as its legend. It’s quite entertaining. Yeah they monkeyed with the story, surprise. And really it’s not nearly as over the top as the books get.
I have seen versions with the comics prologue and with Virginia Madsen (at her prettiest) as the Princess explaining it.
Yep, I agree. It is a watchable movie.
I bought the DVD, so they made money off me twice.
I thought SciFi channels Dune with Alec Newman was close, but the one starting James Macavoy was better.
Lynch’s did not come close.
So bad it was tolerable if you were stoned enough.
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Definitely Nadler, when he was a really fat fxxx.
On the DVD, the director is interviewed. He says he is a big fan of the books and he wanted his miniseries to be as close to Herbert’s vision as possible.
I think he did an awesome job.
Lynch’s version... if it’s on, I’ll stop flipping channels to watch it but the ending is ridiculous.
I liked the SciFi miniseries (I also don’t mind the Lynch version). I wished SciFi took a shot at the whole series of books. I think all of the original Herbert books with son Brian’s books would make a great TV series. I want to see a SciFi version of the God Emperor Leto II, Miles Teg, Duncan Idaho version 55 or whatever. There is enough material to do the books justice. Brian didn’t have the talent that his Dad had for writing but atleast I got the plot of Dune 7 twenty years after reading Chapterhouse: Dune.
It is worth the effort reading or listening to the entire series in chronological order really great. Fantastic actually.
I read the books prior to seeing the film, long prior. I watched the film once, reread Dune and watched the film again. I really enjoyed it at that point. The people with me had no idea what was going on. It’s not easy to watch unless you have some idea what is going on.
Dune is one of those unique books that can never be satisfactorily be made into a movie. Fans simply have too many personal takes on the characters, the story, the meaning, and the visuals.
Great book. Horrible movie.
Not as bad as the film version of The Fountainhead.
And more importantly, "Blue Velvet".
I both read the Dune sagas and watched the Lynch version. Enjoyed both, but am looking forward the Dune movie coming out this year.
Agree... no movie can match the world I created in my mind when I read the books way back when.
I liked it. Watched 3-hour version several times. Satisfied, I’m not sure I want to sully the vision with another’s take.
Frank, in “Blue Velvet” was the scariest character I have ever seen.
"Don't you look at me!"
With today’s CGI, Jodorowsky’s Dune should be completed.
“a 15 minute prologue, in art work, was shown”
Oooh! where to find it?
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