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Coronavirus Unmasked: How It Works: In Italy, only 20 out of 65,000 chronic Lupus patients got COVID-19; A Reader for the Technically Inclined
The Internet Protocol ^ | 04/30/2020 | By Ivan Tkachenko

Posted on 04/30/2020 6:33:20 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Rennes Templar

I dont see vitamin A talked about much from the Drs but that Dr I linked and others that I follow do talk about Vitamin D

For some reason I take Vitamin A with Zinc but can’t remember why. It had to be something I read that said they should be taken together to deal with an ear issue I had which is why I originally bought it- ETD.


21 posted on 04/30/2020 7:36:47 PM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Anecdotal!” screech the leftists.


22 posted on 04/30/2020 7:38:54 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (If the Trump Administration doesn't prosecute the coup plotters he loses the election in 2020)
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free

No, HCQ can have side effects which are severe in some patients.

The problem right now is with the closure few doctors are taking new patients, even if they have cash.


23 posted on 04/30/2020 7:42:04 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: SeekAndFind

Italy and COVID-19


24 posted on 04/30/2020 7:44:32 PM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA. (Owner of Stars and Bars Flags))
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To: MrEdd

Please, enlighten us as to the severe side effects and prevalence of said side effects.


25 posted on 04/30/2020 7:48:38 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr

Dunno about the prevelance, seems like it was maybe three or four men in every platoon. They’d have shakes and chills for maybe three days, and some ran fevers.

I was young and strong, and not one of the ones who got sick.

But we were all young and strong, so side effects are probably much more worrisome for people not in military shape and with a lot of years of accumulated living.

Probably any pharmaceutical site will give you the medical information if you look up hydroxychloroquine.


26 posted on 04/30/2020 7:53:57 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: MrEdd

I wonder where you on chloroquine — that sounds more like the side effect profile. Hyrdoxycholorquine has very few side effects according to the people for whom I have given the drug. I have no experience with chloroquine, but I am under the impression that it was a rougher drug in terms of side effects.


27 posted on 04/30/2020 7:58:11 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: wildcard_redneck

I’m just curious how many Spaniards with incredibly clean aquariums got CIVID.


28 posted on 04/30/2020 8:01:53 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt
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To: gas_dr

The military had moved to hydroxychloroquine by the end of the Carter administration, but the dosage was much higher than today’s civilian dosage.

Hydroxychloroquine has a half life of forty to sixty days. After two weeks at 400mg it’s effective for malaria for maybe forty days if you stop, but much longer if you keep taking 400mg per week.

A Marine line battalion on a little island in the Philippines might not be able to dose its personnel for a three month stretch. That requires filling up the troops till they almost puke.

I think logistics is much better now, so it’s unlikely that they still use such heavy doses.

Probably someone still in will read this thread and give a current update if the thread doesn’t get buried.


29 posted on 04/30/2020 8:05:54 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: TChad

RE:Sounds likely, but where’s the original paper?

This might help:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S092485792030145X?via=ihub

TITLE: Can post-exposure prophylaxis for COVID-19 be considered as an outbreak response strategy in long-term care hospitals?

The PDF version of this paper can be found on the above link as well.


30 posted on 04/30/2020 8:14:14 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: TChad
And for those too lazy to read the contents of the paper I just posted, here's a brief summary...

Highlights

In the context of the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic, management of exposure events is a concern.

There was a large COVID-19 exposure event at a long-term care hospital in Korea.

Post-exposure prophylaxis using hydroxychloroquine was provided to 211 individuals.

Disease development was successfully prevented without severe adverse events.

ABSTRACT

In the context of the ongoing global outbreak of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), management of exposure events is a concern. Long-term care hospitals (LTCHs) are particularly vulnerable to cluster outbreaks because facilities for patient isolation and healthcare personnel to care for these patients in isolation are difficult to arrange in a large outbreak situation. Although several drugs have been proposed as treatment options, there are no data on the effectiveness and safety of post-exposure prophylaxis (PEP) for COVID-19. After a large COVID-19 exposure event in an LTCH in Korea, PEP using hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) was administered to 211 individuals, including 189 patients and 22 careworkers, whose baseline polymerase chain reaction (PCR) tests for COVID-19 were negative. PEP was completed in 184 (97.4%) patients and 21 (95.5%) careworkers without serious adverse events. At the end of 14 days of quarantine, all follow-up PCR tests were negative. Based on our experience, further clinical studies are recommended for COVID-19 PEP.

Keywords

Post-exposure prophylaxis
Hydroxychloroquine

31 posted on 04/30/2020 8:17:31 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: gas_dr

VietNam malaria pill was Acloriquine-primaquine-phosphate.


32 posted on 04/30/2020 8:23:13 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: wildcard_redneck

Virtually every major drug discovered in the last century begin as an anecdote.

Then they observed how it performed on a larger scale before moving to double-blind, placebo- controlled trials.

Today’s standards for randomized controlled trials are a relatively new phenomena. Many of the revolutionary drugs that have transformed modern medicine were never subjected to RCTs. Funny, though, they still work quite well.


33 posted on 04/30/2020 8:24:35 PM PDT by 5by5 (ad)
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To: MrEdd

Thanks for your responses and God bless you for your service.


34 posted on 04/30/2020 8:35:31 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: SeekAndFind
This might help:

Thanks, but while I found the reference in Il Tempo to the report, that information was not sourced. I still can't find an original source. What I find instead are conservative websites repeating the supposed findings of the report.

While it would not surprise me if the report was true, I will think of it as fake news until proved otherwise.

35 posted on 04/30/2020 9:02:22 PM PDT by TChad (The MSM, having nuked its own credibility, is now bombing the rubble.)
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To: tinyowl

I can tell you from personal experience that that degree of sarcasm, especially flying without a sarcasm tag, is going to leave you open to very bitter attacks.


36 posted on 04/30/2020 9:04:57 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Hostage

I liken it to your auto mechanic refusing to give you the 3 dollar quart of oil until you can “prove” that your car engine is in trouble by a piston or two seizing up in their cylinders.


37 posted on 04/30/2020 9:05:37 PM PDT by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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To: Red6
Well, there is one good thing that will come of this, today common sense shit like clean bathrooms at a grocery store, or a Plexiglas divider for a sales clerk that gets sneezed on by 400 customers a day, is becoming the norm. Four (4) months ago had an employee come to the job coughing his lungs out, half the “college educated” managers in this country would have looked down on someone separating themselves or going home, today that may be a bit different.

One of the smartest people I know, and the greatest boss I ever had, said: "Don't bring that crap in here and get us sick, too. Period."

38 posted on 04/30/2020 9:08:27 PM PDT by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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To: Rennes Templar
Which foods destroy vitamins A and D?

I could look it up, but I'm interested in what you've seen.

39 posted on 04/30/2020 9:10:58 PM PDT by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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To: MrEdd; gas_dr

This is one of the better posts I’ve seen about HCQ in the military.


40 posted on 04/30/2020 9:12:54 PM PDT by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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