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To: Rennes Templar

it was a GREAT movie.

But that first battle scene.

Romans weren’t great because of their individual prowess as soldiers but because of the strategies they used.

They likely wouldn’t have fought that way.

I think they were usually quite close together using a “turtle” type of formation.

The one time they couldn’t use those strategies they got massacred in the forests of...somewhere :)


3 posted on 05/14/2020 8:41:51 PM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals N racists dont point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: dp0622
Battle of the Teutoburg Forest
6 posted on 05/14/2020 8:44:34 PM PDT by 11th_VA (May you live in interesting times - Ancient Chinese Proverb)
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To: dp0622
The one time they couldn’t use those strategies they got massacred in the forests of...somewhere :)

Teutoburg.

15 posted on 05/14/2020 9:01:54 PM PDT by Spirochete (GOP: Gutless Old Party)
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To: dp0622

Herman the German, “Give me back my Legions” ?


17 posted on 05/14/2020 9:21:39 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: dp0622

yes Great Movie but yeah that 1st battle scene

Why were the Romans laying siege to a forest?

The Germans could have just flanked them from the side and won


28 posted on 05/14/2020 10:19:08 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: dp0622
The close order "turtle" formation was like the Greek phalanx and was not the typical Roman formation in battles in open terrain because it was vulnerable to being outflanked, exhausted, cut apart by calvary attacks, and bombarded by catapults.

Rome's greatest military innovation was the flexible legionary formation and its associated tactics, training, weapons, and supply system. A Roman legion commonly started a battle with their infantry several feet apart and able to shelter behind large shields from arrows and sling stones and bullets. At decisive moments, the legion and its constituent centuries could change direction, form a solid line or tight formation, or change weapons from spear to short sword.

The initial battle scene in Gladiator was fairly accurate as to a fight against a more numerous but less organized adversary. Invading enemy territory, the Romans would let their adversary gather while improvising a strong line of defense, receive an attack, and then go on the offensive and rout their enemy. Like several other of Rome's worst military defeats, the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest in Germany involved getting ambushed while strung out on the march and unable to form a strong defensive position.

33 posted on 05/14/2020 10:52:10 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: dp0622

You are thinking of the Teutoberg Forest. The Romans were ambushed on the march backs against a lake and badly handled.
The turtle formation is the “Testudo” essentially a defensive formation.
As to their fighting prowess the Roman soldier conquered the known world.


38 posted on 05/15/2020 3:57:56 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: dp0622

That turtle formation, isn’t that what the gladiators used in the first coliseum fight?


44 posted on 05/15/2020 12:36:09 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (Heaven has a wall and gates. Hell has open borders.)
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To: dp0622

Testudo.


46 posted on 05/15/2020 4:34:56 PM PDT by pabianice
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