Posted on 05/16/2020 4:48:36 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
Heck, SURE it’s easy to support a family with only one parent working
- as long as the OTHER one is collecting $800 a week from a government hand-our! Not to mention that any kid over 16 can sign up for the same..
What happens when we run out of OTHER PEOPLE’S MONEY though?
My sister decided to stay home and home school her children when her son was having trouble adapting to the USA public schools in 6th grade. He was being pick on for his overseas ascent constantly to the point where his grades and education suffer. The result of his home schooling enabled him to receive many scholarships.
He just completed a 4-year degree with no debt and was accepted at a major college in genetic research. His master’s degree will cost him nothing and he is receiving over $25K a year while doing research. He plans on doing a PHD while his fiancé pursues medical school. Both were homeschooled and only one parent work. My sister’s family combine income was $45K a year in Ga during the homeschooling.
You do not need both parents working. If both parents are working you are depending on the government to educate (brainwash) the children.
It took far more cultural messaging than the simple pain of taxes to get most women in the workplace.
We do well by the brains of the smart ones contributing to the economy, sure.
But even most of the smart ones would prefer to be home if/when they have children to raise. And more of them have probably realized that in the past couple of months.
You nailed it. The family is the nucleus of freedom and that’s why the communists work so hard to destroy it.
“Community colleges are lacking in many ways....especially placement.”
Can you define “especially placement”?
The systematic destruction of American manufacturing occurred later. Far later than the en masse injection of women into the workforce following WWII.
The real victory for the fascists when both parents are working is caretakers raising their children. When the caretaker is a public school it’s the perfect opportunity for indoctrinating the kids to support fascist ideology.
When one of my best friends had her second child she and her husband did some interesting calculations. If she stayed home and they gave up child, the cleaning service and a few other expenses, and they invested in grad school for her husband, his career trajectory would be such that long term they would have more money. They did the same scenario if he were to quit working and she stayed working.
By him not being expected to take time off for a sick child or meet the teacher time, he could focus more on his job. By the looks of what they just did to their house, I think he’s beating their estimates.
Most people don’t think about the trade offs this way. No, he isn’t an absent father, but a person free to focus on earning money at the appropriate times.
First of all, this condition is still new, and many people still have some resources left to help supplement their current income.
Second, it smacks of typical liberalism.
“If you would just live crappier lives, only one person would need to work in your household.”
Yeah, we know.
Not true.
All the extra expenses of the second person working can often eat up any money they make, especially if child care is part of it.
There's extra money spent on work clothes, extra gas, babysitting or child care, often eating out as shopping and cooking at home time is limited. Lots of people by convenience foods instead of doing it themselves.
The local Wegmans is near some rather well to do communities the the overpriced convenience foods are abundant. You can buy packages of pre-sliced carrots and celery for example for far more than buying the carrots and celery yourself and cutting them up yourself.
I knew that I saved far more money by doing my own home-making, cooking, baking, etc, than if I worked and bought the stuff.
I think it signals hope for our country. That and the article stating that many are considering homeschooling may be the silver lining in the whole covid mess. I think the only way to have a civilized, reasonably educated generation is for “most” moms to be home nurturing their families. I know it isn’t possible for all, but I believe the past 40 years of majority working moms has created the stressed out families and marriages, distance between parents and kids and general unhappiness of millennial generation.
Same here, I was near six figures as a software engineer and gave up to stay home and homeschool. I’ve never regretted it, though it was not always easy.
Crappier lives?
Compared to the rest of the world, we live in such opulent luxury that others can only dream of it.
Very few people in this country are actually poor, or want for anything.
Even the *poor* in this country, and I've seen lots on welfare in that category, have computers, big screen TVs, cell phones, are eligible for welfare, foods stamps, food banks, obamaphones, medicaid, free Christmas gifts from charities, free school breakfast and lunches.
Most people i know have too much stuff already, more than they need. I have not talked to one person I know who does not tell me that they need to downsize.
Almost veryone could afford to live simpler lives and it would not affect the quality of their lives at all.
I’m sure Ivanka is a nice girl and all, but whenever she and others brag about more women in the workplace, I cringe. I’d much rather they brag, “We’ve made it easier for more couples to choose to have one parent stay at home.”
In a lot of cases, it makes more sense for one parent to stay at home especially with small children. Daycare is crazy expensive, often taking up half or more of one paycheck. The children are cared for by someone who genuinely loves them. There is less pressure on the parent who does the cooking and cleaning and shopping. The other parent can work overtime if available. And plus, the stay at home parent can take in another child or two for extra income.
> “One paycheck would not put my grandchildren through college ...”
Two generations ago. American families with one paycheck could raise a child to work to a skill in engineering or journeyman/master in a professional trade. Children with high scholastic aptitude would be found and enabled to attend university by whatever means.
Elite universities had two main admissions categories, the high aptitude and the very rich. The other category that started small but has grown into a major category is that of minority class.
In the one paycheck generation, not every child was expected to go to college as the vast majority do today. Why is that? Because parents today are too busy working at arranged corporate careers where they learn office politics that foster fakery in character, clever liar ability, song and dance corporate presentation capability dressed with paid written CVs. The only real way to get to the top in the vast majority of the incestuous military, political, industrial, social justice, pharma, eugenicist, climate change complex is $$$ and if you ain’t got it or if you ain’t in bed with it, then you ain’t gettin’ there.
And if one of our children is a prodigy and is awarded a patent of powerful innovation, then there’s marketing and collaboration to follow and a slew of barriers to get to market. Chances are it ain’t happening unless you’ve got or are next to $$$ (OR HAVE A PARENT AND COMMUNITY THAT HAS YOUR BACK). This was cynicism in the one paycheck generation, it’s reality in today’s two paycheck generation.
The Virginia engineer from a one paycheck family who invented and obtained push-email had it stolen by Canada’s RIM (Blackberry mfg) and died while suing them. His estate lawyer took years and years to win the case for $667,000,000. That kind of $$$ opens corporate doors treating the $$$ person like a king until they can see whether the person has the mettle to know how to keep it because they are masters at stealing it.
But what made RIM? The same that made GD, HAC, BA, SAIC, Booz, and dozens of other government revolving door corporate extensions. RIM was boosted by Wall St because push-email would land on a RIM server in Canada where US constitutional protections didn’t apply and snooping could take place unabated. See how that works? All was a pig party until NSA developed surveillance ability that rendered RIM obsolete. And now we have the unmasking scandal before us with corporate media covering it up. Is that the ‘corporate’ world we want to send out kids into? Not too worry, most such kids will never get to the top where they see the corruption. But they can be tainted by it and pick up bad habits from it.
Even when one wins life’s $$$ lottery, the corporate office doors will open to reveal slimy characters you really don’t want to be associated with. General Dynamics is one of these. I know, I was a member of a DOD safety review team that canceled one of their biggest defense programs in the 1980s. And they don’t develop submarines, they do what thy are told. GD wouldn’t exist without Admiral Hyman Rickover. The Navy directs submarine development programs and uses GD as gophers to get workers without having to expand the bloated federal workforce. And now GD is controlled by the same slime that sits on boards of dozens of other defense leeches.
> “ ... or give them stimulating activities.”
One paycheck parents that take their child to Church or Synagogue regularly where members instruct the child in biblical wisdom and history. This is all the stimulation a child will ever need because it leads to lifelong friends who will hike together, bike together, climb together, and grow together with integrity.
But the two paycheck family will find more often than not such religious participation as a waste of time. The side effect of such ignorance has been 24 years of shifting social mores raising slimy, unethical, criminal characters to prevalence and prominence, all because the two paychecker class think they can buy ‘stimulating activities’ and can’t be bothered with cultivating age old wisdom which entails real work and can’t be bought off Amazon.
> “My granddaugter is in her 3rd year at Brown (Full Scholarship +) ...”
Congrats to her. Sounds like she didn’t need a two paycheck family, Countless make it on their own, even many from poverty.
Just so it’s known, and several here know it already, I was interviewed and accepted by Rickover as one of his officer candidates, served in his Navy (yeah, HIS Navy), served in the corporate spook world, developed a corporate resume that was a masterpiece work of art ready for framing in the Smithsonian /s, went to an elite PhD program fully paid for in every aspect after acing the GRE and publishing prior to interviewing. Yes, I had a high IQ and was ‘found’. Went on-leave from academic based research and made millions on the outside.
And did my millions open doors to the large corporate boardrooms? No, because millions aren’t much these days, hundreds of millions will get you a board seat and some preferred stock, and billions will get you a seat in the ruler’s circle but chances are you won’t like being at the ruler’s table because others sitting there are repulsive pits of slime.
So there I was smart, rich, accomplished, all based on a one/zero paycheck family with parents, one from a Jewish family and another from a Christian family, but having lost them as a teenager to an accident, I accomplished it all as an orphan from a Zero paycheck lost family left only with the memory and conscience of honorable parents whose ethics and integrity were very high.
And did all my ‘gifts’ make me ‘smart’? Did all this ‘success’ and money somehow make me ‘superior’?
NO!
What ‘made’ me?
What made me was the wisdom imparted me by Rabbis from my Jewish family, inspiration of belief and faith from pastors and priests from my Christian family, ethics and perseverance left in my conscience by my parents.
All the rest of education, elitism, money, fame, corporate careerism, ‘stimulating activities’, all of that is ‘here today - gone tomorrow’ but the eternal truth of God and His Son remains and are all that natters.
Stimulating ‘bucket lists’ don’t matter.
A one paycheck family that can impart the Word of God to their children will make them ‘rich’ and ‘stimulated’ for life. This is what matters.
...have a nice home, new car,...
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Usually at least 2 nice cars, maybe a vacation cottage, maybe an RV, bass boat. All mortgaged to the hilt and constantly refinanced.
Then there are the work-related costs: frequent beauty shop appointments, nail salon, massage,cosmetic dentistry,a certain level of new, brand name ready-to-wear clothing & shoes, plus handbags and jewelry.
Kids spend summers in expensive theme camps. The entire family have latest generation cell phones with high cap data plans. Kids *need* all the same fashion and cosmetic accoutrements.
There are large flatscreens and top-of-the line devices in every room, with premium subscriptions. Paid lawn care. At least one expensive vacation/year, often more. Entire family orders out several times a week and don’t forget *date night*.
People are living 6-figure paycheck to paycheck just to make payments and pay for subscriptions.
Then it all stops. Income is too high for special relief payments. Delayed taxes and mortgage payments pile up. Kids cannot understand why they can’t continue as before. Any savings are gone after 6 weeks unless the jobs are considered essential.
It’s a dystopian nightmare. No wonder there is substance abuse (none of which are free), suicide, depression, physical abuse.
Maybe the financial crash will cause people to reevaluate. There is an old saying:”Once poor, never rich.”
Exactly.
I’ll try not to go on, but Ivanka and Jared are the pox on this administration.
Ivanka’s made it easier for her glamour-job wife-of-hedge fund manager friends to “have it all”, but she’s made it harder for families with a mother at home and Jared, through his immigration pushes and protection for his wealthy associates, much harder for average men to earn enough to support their family at home.
And I haven’t actually seen evidence (obviously, I don’t know her) of how “nice” she is. I do know that she and Jared are friends with all the wrong people (Chelsea Clinton, the Murdochs, etc.)
A+++++
...cutting them up yourself.
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I have timed that chore. It takes under 5 minutes.
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