Not Aliens, but Maybe Drones? New Reports Detail U.S. Navy’s UFO Encounters

nationalinterest.org ^ | May 18, 2020 | Ethen Kim Lieser

[taildragger]

Again, look for the “War Room” article. In this article a retired Radar Engineer noted back in the day, they experimented with tricking out our enemies radar system by placing these false targets on them, and of course you try it on your own system 1st. He thinks they are back at it....

[dljordan]

“Most likely RC aircraft.....RC hobbyists have some incredible planes, many are miniature jets with actual turbine engines.......”

At 80,000 feet?

[jmacusa]

An advanced civilization studying us would realize, as I said, our predilection to destroy ourselves. They would also know, or very soon find out we would most likely react to their contact with skepticism at the least and out right hostility at the worst.

They would also no doubt know we are in possession of not only nuclear power for the generation of electricity and peaceful uses but we're in possession of nuclear weapons, that we have used nuclear weapons in the past and if we're threatened we will fight. If there is an advanced civilization(s) out there and most assuredly there are , they know where we are. Whether or not they have been here before in our early history for myself I doubt it very much.

[Hot Tabasco]

At 80,000 feet?

There's nothing in the article that mentions 80,000 feet..........and FWIW, the ceiling for military jets is around 50,000 ft.

[Rockingham]

Not just our wars show us to be violent, but our violent attitude even toward UFOs would have been clear when, soon after WW II, both the US and the USSR adopted shoot them down policies for when UFOs strayed into sensitive airspace. This proved mostly ineffective, except to provoke retaliation that seems to have included civilian aircraft as UFO targets. The result was that both superpowers adopted a leave them alone policy toward UFOs.

UFO interest in nuclear power plants and weapons installations is well established, with some incidents of nuclear missiles being deactivated or started toward count down. Notably, the explosion of nuclear weapons in war and in testing would likely have prompted interest in Earth as a nuclear power. Even if UFOs are immune to all other human weapons, a hit from a missile with a ten kiloton nuclear warhead would no doubt be destructive of a UFO.

Along those lines, in the immediate post-WW II era, it was at Roswell, New Mexico that the USAF based its nuclear-armed B-29s. No wonder the place seemed to attract interest from UFOs.

By one account, the US policy of UFO secrecy was based on John von Neuman's insight that UFOs seemed to prefer secrecy, so changing that policy might prompt them to become aggressive. Supposedly, with new weapons now providing the US and Earth with a self-defense capability, UFO secrecy is gradually being relaxed. The release of the Navy UFO videos and pilot reports seem consistent with that explanation.

[Rockingham]

I still have my hair, but I am inclined to demand, as the line from Bladerunner had it, "More life, f*cker!"

[mad_as_he$$]

lol....

[jmacusa]

I’m sorry but there is no real proof these things actually exist. Unidentified flying objects are just that, unidentified. I know all about Roswell. In 1981 I bought a book called “The Roswell Incident’’. I believed in the things until I developed an interest in astronomy. I’m sorry, but until one lands on The White House lawn I don’t believe in them anymore.

[Rockingham]

UFO sightings and contact incidents are a worldwide phenomenon, and serious, analytical minded people regard it as real.

Some years ago, a friend of mine who was a retired intelligence operator with a high-level security clearance was on a private business trip to meet scientists and program managers at the Sandia National Labs in Albuquerque, New Mexico. His visit was complicated by the UFO flap that became known as the Phoenix Lights.

When my friend arrived, the scientists whom he was to meet with were busy analyzing numerous videos and photos of the episode. Since my friend had a wife who was a believer, he became a willing audience for their analysis and theories that showed the UFO and tracked its movement. When he got home, he called me and said that USA Today would soon do an article on it.

And that is what happened, with the Air Force later peddling the absurd claim that flares from a National Guard exercise explained the supposed UFO sighting -- even though it included a black triangle shape obscuring stars as it slowly transited over half the state and then Phoenix.

As my friend explained, that visit to Sandia made him a UFO believer. He saw nothing directly of the incident, but the photographs and video he saw and their analysis by some of the best scientists and technicians in the world convinced him.

As for me, I have never seen a UFO and do not profess to know precisely what they are. Decades of government playing keep-away with the data though have convinced me that UFOs are real in some sense. After all, except to entertain little children, no one plays keep-away unless they have something to hide.

[SunkenCiv]

The rest of the AATIP keyword, chrono:

• Here Are The Navy Pilot Reports From Encounters With Mysterious Aircraft Off The East Coast [2020]
• REVEALED: Navy fighter jets intercepted eight UFOs and even locked on to one with air-to-air missiles, classified reports show [2020]
• Videos: Pentagon Declassifies Three UFO Videos Taken By Navy Pilots [2020]
• Pentagon officially releases UFO videos... [2020]
• VIRAL VIDEO: Las Vegas resident spots 'unidentified object' over city [2019]
• Space Alien Research Grad Program May Soon Be A Thing [2019]
• Why We'll Have Evidence of Aliens -- If They Exist -- By 2035 [2019]
• The Navy acknowledges UFOs -- so why aren't they on Washington's radar? [2019]
• The Weird History of Unidentified Submerged Objects [2019]
• Scientist Behind The Navy's "UFO Patents" Has Now Filed One For A Compact Fusion Reactor [2019]
• Navy Pilot Says 'Dark Mass' Made Torpedo Disappear [2019]
• BLAME IT ON MY UFO Team of alien hunters led by Blink-182 singer Tom DeLonge claims it's found ... [2019]
• 'Storm Area 51': About 100 people gathered at secret site's gate to 'see them aliens,' [2019]
• Navy confirms, but can't explain strange 'aerial' objects in 3 videos [2019]
• FAA closes airspace around Area 51 ahead of alien raid event [2019]
• UFO videos are footage of real 'unidentified' objects, US Navy acknowledges [2019]
• Alien civilizations may have explored the galaxy and visited Earth already, a new study says [2019]
• Trump Says He's Not a UFO Believer But "Anything's Possible" [2019]
• Recent UFO Encounters With Navy Pilots Occurred Constantly Across Multiple Squadrons [2019]
• Trump says he was briefed on Navy sightings of UFOs; 'Do I believe it? Not particularly' [2019]
• Navy F/A-18 Pilot Shares New Details About UFO Encounters During Middle East Deployment [2019]
• Navy Pilots are Seeing UFOs. Are They from Russia, China, or Somewhere Beyond? [2019]
• The US Government Just Admitted To Recovering Materials From UFOs - Here Are The Latest Updates [2019]
• Just like that, UFO's are a Mainstream Topic with our Gov't acting like it's always been that way [2019]
• Former Military Intelligence Official: 'Low Probability' UFO Technology Is Of This World *(Tucker) [2019]
• Carrier Group In Recent UFO Encounters Had New Air Defense Tech Just Like Nimitz In 2004 Incident [2019]
• They're Out There [2019]
• UFOs exist and everyone needs to adjust to that fact [2019]
• Navy pilots spotted UFOs flying at hypersonic speeds: report [2019]
• 'Wow, What Is That?' Navy Pilots Report Unexplained Flying Objects [2019]
• Navy: No release of UFO information to the general public expected [2019]
• The Navy is officially taking UFOs seriously [2019]
• US Navy Drafting New Guidelines for Reporting UFOs [2019]
• U.S. Navy drafting new guidelines for reporting UFOs [2019]
• U.S. Navy drafting new guidelines for reporting UFOs [2019]
• The Mystery of the Dellschau Flying Contraptions [2019]
• I-Team: More details on government UFO findings could be forthcoming [2018]
• I-Team: Man who headed up secret government UFO study speaks out [2018]
• What the New York Times UFO Report Actually Reveals [2017]
• Why is the US government funding UFO research? [2017]
• UFO Existence 'Proven Beyond Reasonable Doubt,' Says Former Head Of Pentagon Alien Program [2017]
• Existence of UFO's 'proved beyond reasonable doubt' as expert says earth 'could have been visited' [2017]
• The U.S. Military's UFO Program Is Actually Pretty Cool (New info on Nimitz UFO) [2017]
• The Truth About Those 'Alien Alloys' in The NY Times UFO Story [2017]
• That Time the U.S. Navy Had a Close Encounter With a UFO (More good info) [2017]
• Latest Interview with pilot David Fravor on USS Nimitz UFO Incident (Tucker Carlson- Video) [2017]
• There was a lot more to that NY Times UFO story last week [2017]
• Sarah Sanders jokes that reporters have 'aliens sitting among you'...... [2017]
• Former Pentagon UFO official: 'We may not be alone' [2017]
• Navy pilot recalls encounter with UFO: 'I think it was not from this world' [2017]
• Harry Reid Started Pentagon Program to Look for Aliens. [2017]
• Glowing Auras and 'Black Money': The Pentagon's Mysterious U.F.O. Program [2017]
• 2 Navy Airmen and an Object That 'Accelerated Like Nothing I've Ever Seen'--UFO [2017]
• Harry Reid's $22 Million UFO Pet Project [2017]
• Pentagon secretly set up program to investigate UFOs at Harry Reid's urging [donors idea] [2017]
• Are Earthlings alone? Half of humans believe in alien life [2017]
• Inside Knowledge About Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Could Lead To World-Changing Technology [2017]
• Inside Knowledge About Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Could Lead To World-Changing Technology [2017]
• Hillary Clinton promises to 'get to the bottom of UFO mystery' if elected, and...... [2016]
• Infrared picks up invisible UFOs [2004]

[SunkenCiv]

Is it even possible? Yes, it is.

[Vaduz]

Strange how some think another world would have humans on it evolution does not make exact copies in different worlds.
It’s like when people thought man came from monkeys.

[dljordan]

Sorry, it was 60,000.
https://www.foxnews.com/science/supersonic-tic-tac-ufo-stalked-us-aircraft-carrier-for-days-pentagon-report-reveals

[jmacusa]

In an age of modern photography every picture and video of a purported ‘’ufo’’ is blurry and out of focus. It’s as if the person witnessing it said “Wow! A UFO! Let me get my crappiest camera and take a picture!’’.

[Rockingham]

Oddly, I have seen unusually clear and detailed UFO images challenged as "too good to be true." In practice, modern digital cameras have metadata attached to the image files. This information commonly permits experts to have confidence in the integrity of the image because the time and circumstances of its creation are thereby documented.

Ten or twenty years from now, the proliferation of high-quality cameras, new forensic techniques, hyperspectral imaging, and night vision cameras are likely to produce a flood of clear, reliable UFO images. Even now, enough odd things are captured on camera that an entire TV show is dedicated to such material as evidence of the paranormal. In addition, new forensic techniques will help to assure that UFO images are not fabrications.