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We learned that in Minnesota the National Guard, State Police, and the local Police turned and ran and left the citizens to defend for themselves. So I have a couple of questions for our “Protect and Serve” authorities. (Vanity)
https://www.freerepublic.com ^ | 5-30-2020 | Enterprise

Posted on 05/30/2020 9:44:48 AM PDT by Enterprise

1. What determines the point at which you will turn and run and abandon the citizens you have sworn to protect and serve?

2. Can you draft a policy which gives the citizens a clear understanding of when you will turn and run? This is vital to the community because they need as much notice as possible to arm, organize, and deploy to have a chance to overcome the threat.

3. Hypothetically, suppose a crowd of thousands of thugs approaches a community and you turn and run and abandon your citizens. The next day, thousands of bodies of thugs are stacked like cord wood. Since you chose to abandon your positions, are you now obligated not to investigate, and arrest and prosecute the citizens who defended their homes and lives when you wouldn’t?

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To: rfreedom4u

And that is a bad thing?

This isn’t a movie. That is not the mission of the Marines. You guys need to settle down. The desire for bloodshed is scary. Clearly, this stuff isn’t happening around you.


61 posted on 05/30/2020 10:49:35 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt
"Clearly, this stuff isn’t happening around you."

If it does, we would like to know if the authorities are going to stand their ground or run away. We have a right to know.

62 posted on 05/30/2020 10:52:02 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: Grampa Dave

“Here is the pyramid of blame/responsibility in Minneapolis!”

I haven’t seen police unions mentioned yet. I would put them high on the list as unions cause bad members to be kept. With those 17 write-ups the cop had I bet the union was right there causing the Police to keep the reprobate.


63 posted on 05/30/2020 10:52:04 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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To: Vermont Lt
"And the people in the street—unarmed and walking around—are worth shooting at."

Quit being an ass and playing dumb. People who are unarmed, walking around, and causing no problems should not be shot. People who are in the middle of a riot who are engaged in violence and/or looting and committing arson should be shot.

64 posted on 05/30/2020 10:54:16 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: Hardastarboard
> A platoon of Marines would be enough. <

A family of rooftop Koreans would be enough.

(Just kidding...maybe.)

65 posted on 05/30/2020 10:58:07 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Vermont Lt
"They did not turn and run. It was a de-escalating retreat."

Surprise! Not everyone agrees with that.

"Minneapolis has once again descended into chaos. The police have retreated. And where is the National Guard? Well, they set up a defensive perimeter, and then they ran away. I’m not kidding"

Minneapolis Anarchy: Lack of National Guard and Police Protection Leads to Another Night of Looting and Destruction

66 posted on 05/30/2020 10:59:03 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: Leaning Right

Bump!!!


67 posted on 05/30/2020 11:00:03 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: Enterprise

They walked the perimeter back. They did not break and run.

Had they stood their ground people would have been hurt.

But that’s what you want to see....white troops shooting down unarmed black folk.

The bloodlust here is scary.


68 posted on 05/30/2020 11:04:05 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Enterprise
Have you paused to ask if the arrayed forces were ordered to stand down? The pusillanimous punk running the city might be the point to ponder.
69 posted on 05/30/2020 11:06:33 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Vermont Lt
"But that’s what you want to see....white troops shooting down unarmed black folk."

The President has talked about sending in the military. Do you think he wants to see white troops shooting unarmed black folk?

70 posted on 05/30/2020 11:12:01 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: MHGinTN
"Have you paused to ask if the arrayed forces were ordered to stand down? The pusillanimous punk running the city might be the point to ponder."

Yes, I have considered that. If the authorities ran away because they were told to run away, they still ran away.

71 posted on 05/30/2020 11:14:40 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: Enterprise

If this is what it’s come down to then class actions need to be brought against every municipality that has “to protect and serve” emblazoned on their police cars for fraud and deceptive advertising.


72 posted on 05/30/2020 11:20:16 AM PDT by Impala64ssa (Virtue signalling is no virtue)
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To: Enterprise

You are clueless as to what you are advocating. Why? Why give the punk mayor and leftists government in Minnesota a pass?


73 posted on 05/30/2020 11:27:13 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Texas Eagle

Isn’t it interesting how quiet the Police Unions have been through all this?


Especially when the autopsy concluded the actions of the officers did not cause the suspect’s death.


74 posted on 05/30/2020 11:31:15 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Enterprise

My answers:

1.When using your benefits and pension is threatened.

2. When using your benefits and pension is threatened.

3. Obligated only to investigate white conservatives.


75 posted on 05/30/2020 11:50:32 AM PDT by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and so few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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Bump


76 posted on 05/30/2020 12:08:16 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: Vermont Lt

It wouldn’t hurt for a few people to go on “ride-a-longs”.


77 posted on 05/30/2020 12:09:05 PM PDT by Mark (Celebrities... is there anything they do not know? -Homer Simpson)
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To: Enterprise
If you are not part of a militia that actively vets and supports your sheriff, you are part of the problem. I know that sounds harsh, but the concept of militia isn't a spectator sport. Militia is and has always been the people if you research the term.

Fortunately the militias today are starting to realize they have no chance if they do not establish a relationship with their sheriff. This has not, however, transferred to large cities to my knowledge. You would be better off forming neighborhood watches and not use the "M" word.

One book I would commend to you that frames it nicely: "Constitutional Homeland Security" by Dr Edwin Vieira.

78 posted on 05/30/2020 12:20:35 PM PDT by Salvavida
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To: Salvavida

Thank you for recommending Vieira. Looks like another great addition to the arena of sanity and common sense. FR has such a treasure trove of people with sound wisdom to offer, we must get away from the hysteria and get down to the reality of our situation and STAND!


79 posted on 05/30/2020 12:58:15 PM PDT by avenir (")
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To: rfreedom4u

Why put Marines in danger when the city and state will not use the resources they already have?


80 posted on 05/30/2020 1:11:21 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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