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Below the ~~~~line at the bottom of the thread post, there's information about how this Contact Tracing/Tracking software was developed by an organization that envisions using it to resolve the injustices inherent in a "capitalist system," and the governor's stumbling response as to why he chose that organization mentions his own work in Haiti repeatedly and pointlessly. I'm guessing this guy and the Clinton's were on the same page regarding the complete exploitation and impoverishing of Haitians.
1 posted on 05/30/2020 1:41:02 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote

Uh, phone off in a faraday cage at home. I don’t NEED my phone with me 24/7.


2 posted on 05/30/2020 1:43:47 PM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: ransomnote

Heck no. This is insanity, and we have to start fighting back now. Write to your congress critters, write to your mayors and governors and “just say no.”

One of the sad things about the Jewish experience in Germany and Austria (particularly Vienna, where Jews were part of the cultural and intellectual elite and identified with their country more than with being Jewish) is that they waited too long. They kept saying, don’t worry, this Hitler is just a madman, he’s just doing this for votes, nobody believes him - to, well, really, they say they’re going to take us to some place nice to protect us from thugs in the streets - to the concentration camps.

The time to protest is now. See if somebody can get a Supreme Court ruling or something that protects us, because this type of invasion of privacy and making us all into spies certainly violates about half of the Constitutional provisions.


4 posted on 05/30/2020 1:48:16 PM PDT by livius
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To: ransomnote
I'm a certified contact tracer and I'm going to trace citizens like they have never been traced before.

This.Ends.Now.

6 posted on 05/30/2020 1:49:58 PM PDT by JonPreston
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To: ransomnote

GERM Warfare


7 posted on 05/30/2020 1:50:54 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Anyone tired of the Chinese Fire Drill (tm) yet???)
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To: ransomnote

Fascism: The Big Technology Version.


11 posted on 05/30/2020 1:54:03 PM PDT by Arcadian Empire
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To: ransomnote
Video by Vladislav Sobolev

Yes, trust Vlad. Vlad knows all.

Ain't gonna happen, at least not here in flyover country. No one would enforce it and no one would cooperate even if they tried.

12 posted on 05/30/2020 1:54:51 PM PDT by Pollard (whatever)
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To: ransomnote

Lucifer loves electronics. He especially loves smart phones. He’s getting a woody over this thing.

Accept the mark of the beast, or else...


13 posted on 05/30/2020 2:03:45 PM PDT by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and so few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: ransomnote
Fearpers are ELATED!
14 posted on 05/30/2020 2:03:53 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ransomnote
Normally, I'm not one to panic buy, but I saw this coming and stocked up on plenty of good chianti, and fava beans. Oh, and I won't be wearing my mask any more.

17 posted on 05/30/2020 2:17:13 PM PDT by Mr. Rabbit
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To: ransomnote

Bfl


18 posted on 05/30/2020 2:19:54 PM PDT by pigsmith (Liberals can't make the connection between their politics and the decline of everything around them.)
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To: ransomnote

Thanks, ransomnote, for starting this thread.

In my opinion, allowing this program to continue will amount to rapid and complete destruction of whatever liberty we have left.

If you are concerned that an arrogant governor or mayor could so easily violate your liberty, what about giving that authority to 300,000 contact tracer administrators (enforcers)?

That IS the current CDC strategy, and they already have fundamental contracts in place.

This MUST be stopped.

But that is going to be very difficult

Just for starters, here are some arguments from Alan Dershowitz and Bill Gates

Dershowitz forced vaccine https://www.newsmax.com/us/coronavirus-vaccines-alan-dershowitz/2020/05/19/id/967964/

https://www.foxnews.com/media/alan-dershowitz-forced-coronavirus-vaccinations-are-constitutional

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2020/05/19/watch-alan-dershowitz-makes-the-case-for-government-mandated-coronavirus-vaccine-n2569134

https://spectator.org/will-we-all-be-forced-to-get-covid-vaccines/

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/30/bill-gates-what-you-need-to-know-about-a-coronavirus-vaccine.html

https://www.gatesnotes.com/Health/What-you-need-to-know-about-the-COVID-19-vaccine?WT.tsrc=BGEM

https://www.gatesfoundation.org/TheOptimist/Articles/coronavirus-mark-suzman-funding-announcement-2

Dershowitz said that if a Wuhan coronavirus vaccine was developed tomorrow, not only would he get it but so would his entire family, assuming they “felt” the vaccine was “safe.”

Some people reject vaccines for religious reasons. Others don’t trust Big Pharma. And then there are those who have had allergic reactions to various vaccines. Not everything is as cut and dry as Dershowitz makes it out to be. It’s scary to think that we could be forced to do something against our will. What he’s saying confirms some of the suspicion conservatives have had over the years (you know, when they tell us we’re wearing our tinfoil hats).

I would respond: The government has NO RIGHT to endanger me.


21 posted on 05/30/2020 2:34:56 PM PDT by Grandpa Drudge (Just an old man, desperate to preserve our great country for my grandchildren.)
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To: Swordmaker

k,
so there’s that.


22 posted on 05/30/2020 2:50:27 PM PDT by A strike (" Was that wrong? Should I not have done this? " - Costanza)
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To: ransomnote

Your warning “know that laws are already on the books” is key to the solution to this disaster.

If you agree that “Laws” are enacted by elected representatives of the people, then people are rightfully required to be governed by and follow those laws.

The real issue here is that the “Contact Tracing Mandatory laws” are actually “regulations” and were NOT enacted by elected representatives at all.

Unfortunately, they are instead “regulations with the force of law” implemented by the powerful Deep State Bureaucracy that is HHS, NIH/NIAID, CDC and FDA.

This huge bureaucracy is almost entirely controlled by massive financial and political influences in the medical, pharmaceutical, and food industries.

And, as politicians often do, they have deliberately turned a relatively severe epidemic (Covid-19) into a massive FEAR DRIVEN PANDEMIC, and in the process practically destroyed our economy, in order to justify public support for massively increasing their power and authority even more.

We must expose this process for what it is, and generate enough public awareness and support to regain control by the people over this bureaucracy.


27 posted on 05/30/2020 3:32:40 PM PDT by Grandpa Drudge (Just an old man, desperate to preserve our great country for my grandchildren.)
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To: ransomnote

If you think “stay at home” was bad for the economy, try to calculate what this would do to the economy.

Using the chain formula where a person suspected of the wu-flu gets on a train or goes to a group gathering of any kind....ball game maybe....this insane scheme would shut down just about every industry in the country.

Because in the examples above, only the damage done to one person or by one person is discussed. Reality is that a trip to WalMart by an infected person would result in many being locked up. Say 50 people. So each of them contact 10 on the way home and each of them contact 5 or more on the way home...now each of those .....

Get the picture?

This would shut down the entire country almost overnight.

Any politician who voted for or votes for this is a moron who should be locked up for his own safety.

Yesterday I woke up in America. This morning I woke up in a country that I do not understand. The America I knew was gone.


28 posted on 05/30/2020 3:54:25 PM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so terrible, so disgraceful, that the federal government can not make worse)
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To: ransomnote

Ransomnote,

If people treated their cellphones like landlines, then the tracking contact tracing apps are useless.

Leave em home.

Nobody can force someone to carry their phone with them at all waking hours of the day.


35 posted on 05/30/2020 10:16:54 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: ransomnote
I can see this whole thing going very badly very quickly when 'they' start demanding entrance to private homes in order to enforce this crap, and behind the door they force open will be something much worse than the Wu-Flu.

I truly, with a white-hot burning passion, hate these phones already, and now they practically want it stapled to my forehead. Gosh, it would be too bad to accidently drop it under my front tire as I drive off...

38 posted on 05/31/2020 8:05:51 PM PDT by pigsmith (Liberals can't make the connection between their politics and the decline of everything around them.)
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