[hanamizu]

“...(Oh, and SatNav...:))”

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Our latest car, a Honda CRV, doesn’t have SatNav. Phone apps have replaced it. Waze even lets you know where the cops are, traffic jams, debris in the road and is, obviously, constantly updated.

[Moltke]

Our latest car, a Honda CRV, doesn’t have SatNav. Phone apps have replaced it.

Point taken. The first SatNavs were separate devices from the car, then they were integrated, and now perhaps the trend will go back to separate units via apps, at least for some users. But my 5-year-old phone probably won't run these apps...and I won't be bullied into buying a new phone every year to keep up with apps.