Posted on 06/19/2020 5:37:31 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
My read is that Lazar believes what he is saying.
However, he may well have been the victim of a mind-control experiment and been shown and told some fake stuff.
Ive had a fascination with UFOs ever since i was a kid. Had one brief sighting myself once. What did Jesse tell you?
I tell you what though. I worked in that immediate area last year and it caused me to have eyes in the back of my head.
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What do you think was the cause of this paranoid feeling? Assume you did not see anything specific or you’d have mentioned it, so perhaps you have an intuitive context, maybe related to this topic?
You guys should take the SG-1 tour in Colorado. It was fascinating going the the stargate. Another alien clone of Thor was there too giving the tour.
Here is a fact. The very air we breath is most likely fatal to any “alien” out there. So, most likely, if they are “visiting” they are sending drones. After all, arent we sending drones to other planets?
Fact number two. If they have the know how to get here from another galaxy, we wouldnt be here any longer. We’d most likely be either slaves to them or cease to exist unless we are/were lucky and have had “visitors” who are not aggressive.
Fact number three. All government agencies would issue so much false information on the matter that nobody could sort out the facts from fiction.
So many people ask me that question, it sounds like a cute question.
#1 If they are not from earth or related to earth life, they’d be susceptible to earth pathogens. If not, they would not likely be well acclimated to our conditions. Either way, there are lots of other reasons, strategic and practical, to avoid direct contact. Now we would call them drones. In the past, robots or probes perhaps. It is likely that their sophistication goes far beyond these concepts, including massive realtime AI coordination among dievices or perhaps entities.
#2, You can’t assume that the origin is remote and thus any need to traverse celestial scale distances, let alone the fact that it may not be such a massive leap to achieve that soft of engineering. Barely more than a century ago we were not commonly using air foils to achieve lift.
Also, the concept of ‘aggression’ may not apply to other forms of ‘intelligence’ in the same mammalian pretexts that we use. Just because they haven’t overtly enslaved us or yet destroyed us (humans, all of earth, or some combination) doesn’t mean they can’t arrive at a motivation to do so in the future, or perhaps they are patient and methodical in their assessment and subsequent planning of such.
#3 there usually has to be a significant socio/political motivation for such large scale dis-information or counter-intelligence. What would that be, other than the standard desire to keep things status quo?
The former Freeper you’re thinking of Quix.
There are those of a religious bent who believe that the Bible is clear about there not being sentient life anywhere else in the universe.
The Bible states that Jesus died once for our sins. But if that is the case then Jesus couldn't have been born, lived, preached, and been crucified on multiple worlds. But if Jesus didn't appear on other worlds then it would be cruel for God to create those sentient beings and give them absolutely no clue as to the One Way to salvation.
So these folks tend to believe that if there are UFOs that are not weather phenomena or military exercises then they must be demons.
It will be interesting if there are aliens and they do make themselves known to us. Most people will treat them as other beings that we either can work with or have to fight against. At the same time there will be a huge number of traditional religious folks who will believe them to be demons and act accordingly. Could be very chaotic.
How do people ‘act’ against demons?
Another inquisition of those they consider in league with them?
Presidents and UFO’s
Let’s be clear, by UFO I don’t mean interstellar aliens. The “U” stands for Unidentified. I also do not necessarily subscribe to the information below. I am passing it on as a Freeper service to those who don’t follow this stuff. I am fascinated by it, but I take it all with a HUGH grain of salt.
Truman was the first President who had to deal with the issue. He formed Majestic 12 - and the modern national intelligence agencies - as a response. He was in the loop.
Eisenhower was read in because, at that point, the default was to read the President in. There are reports that Eisenhower met with aliens. As he was leaving office Ike warned about the Military Industrial Complex and “keeping secrets from Americans” and his vague references are taken by the UFO investigating community to be a reference to the new “shadow government” that sprung up in response to the UFO “threat”. It is fair to say at this point that Nixon knew because he was VP to Ike.
Kennedy, it is said, was poised to announce a joint effort with the Soviets to explore space and share info on UFOs. There is speculation that he was going to announce this in Dallas the day he was assassinated.
Johnson was hip deep in the military/NASA sphere (Johnson Space Center) and as Kennedy’s VP was probably read in on the UFO situation. Some say that the Shadow Government wasn’t too happy with the “civilian” space program (NASA) continuing to draw attention to space and thought that Nixon could pull things back.
Nixon did cut funding for NASA and the Apollo program was halted on his watch. Nixon did a strange thing - he apparently brought his good friend Jackie Gleason to Homestead Air Force Base and showed him the corpses of dead aliens. It was at this point that the concept of “need to know” was applied to Presidents.
Ford may have been read in, but he wasn’t in office long enough to have an effect one way or another. He did make Rockefeller his VP and there is much speculation on the Rockefeller ties to the shadow government.
Carter had spoken of seeing UFOs and was considered untrustworthy. Kept in the dark.
Reagan shows all the signs of being in the loop - SDI, the speech at the UN of the hypothetical “alien threat” and his VP was Bush Sr., former head of the CIA and connected to the military industrial complex for many years.
Bush Sr. as stated above, was in the loop before he became president.
Clinton made noise about declassifying UFO files and, even though there is evidence that people in his administration tried to find out, he was likely kept in the dark.
Bush the younger was likely in the know due to his father.
Obama was almost certainly not fully briefed.
Which brings us to President Trump and his recent statement.
Over the past few decades it seems that “need to know” falls along party lines. Some speculate that the government is hiding technologies that would change the world and that those who live to shake things up - Democrats - would use the information to destroy the existing world economy. Republicans are seen as friends of existing energy and industrial companies and would see these new technologies only released sparingly.
Do I believe all of this? Not particularly. I have family members who have worked for the government and have alluded to, but not confirmed, projects that they have worked on that are not public knowledge. There is stuff that we are not being told - probably for very good reasons - that would likely shock a lot of people.
However large, the number of people who will believe the aliens to be demons will be small compared to those that don’t. They will be considered a kooky minority to be marginalized. They will not be in a position to launch any sort of inquisition. It will be they who will be more likely to become victims of a secular inquisition.
I thought the Phoenix lights were explained.
Let me hasten to add that these are anecdotal reports (of course).
“You can’t assume that the origin is remote and thus any need to traverse celestial scale distances,”
So what you are saying that you are one of those who believe that the Earth is hollow? And is the earth flat also?
I think we are done here.
Let me know when they are explained.
They are not, and never will be until this federal government comes clean.
So what you are saying that you are one of those who believe that the Earth is hollow? And is the earth flat also?
I think we are done here.
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Be dismissive if you want, because I am not saying anything of the sort, but you are glad to think I am.
The most likely probability, if the are extra-terrestrial at all, is that they are fully deployed here, and not constantly running back and fourth.
Well, there are a lot of kooks out in the world.
The SR 71 was developed way back when by Kelly Johnson, and native of an area where my wife hails from and knew. Kelly’s cousins would tell the story of how the man was secretive and would not talk about his job. He was just an engineer.
If people like Kelly could do that then, what could be done now?
Oh there are alien crafts alright. It just isnt theirs, they are ours.
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