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To: rx

I could care less about your conspiracy therories, according to a 2018 report from the Pentagon, the entire Department of Defense lost over 20,000 U.S.-based industrial suppliers from 2000 to 2018. Let that reality sink in. As an engineering designer for the military I saw the destruction myself.

I thought I distinctly remembered seeing someone riding a motorcycle on the moon on television, but that was 50 years ago. You’re the one trying to explain the photo as fake and suggesting the single track being from the not yet unpacked rover. It could have been any number of devices like a camera equipent rickshaw or simple versions of the Modular Equipment Transporter with changed out chevron pattern wheels. Even though they had a rover, you think they just manhandled large pieces of equipment? The first mission to the moon used the MET and there were lessons learned. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modular_Equipment_Transporter Wheel development. https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20100000019.pdf
As far as the last two stacked pictures, I don’t see any rover in either of those pictures. Clearly it is the same camera location. What I do see looks very much like a piece of equipment. The left astronaut is obscuring whatever piece of equipment is behind him. Some of it’s parts are clearly visible though. The right astronaut looks as if he is dragging something. So what.

Leaat of all, I didn’t forget the story of Apollo 13 and how the mock up was instrumental in saving their lives after the oxygen tank explosion.


12 posted on 08/06/2020 10:31:58 AM PDT by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could kata - Romeo company)
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To: OftheOhio
I don't think you were clear to say how the DoD's loss of 20k+ suppliers in that time period should be called destruction--though I would understand if a vital supply resources should have been able to help the country on-goingly. I simply don't think you explained yourself well there. And what does that have to do with the rest of this story? We couldn't have convinced the Soviet Union there was a mission to the moon with just 50 little engineering, hardware and chemical shops near KSC, could we? And there would be spies among those to give their Rooskie masters convincing assurances those 20k+ shops weren't making useless lunar bicycles and METs, right? Yet, Barry saw fit to hand NASA and the space program over to Muslim Outreach, so it had to be important! /s Whom do you finger as responsible for that destruction?

As with Pavlov and his dog, the US Mockingbird media have for many decades conditioned citizens to have a programmed reaction when someone uses the term "conspiracy theory." You should be careful not to allow yourself believe you've somehow advanced any argument in using the phrase. If your purpose was simply to cast aspersions my direction, be advised, you've really only soiled yourself.

The MET conveniently has two wheels, spaced 3' or so apart. I guess that can't be the answer for AS17-140-21370 then, eh? Oh, and the Wiki says the MET was only used on Apollo 14, so there's that second (pretty major) strike against your explanation.

The Rover with no tracks could not have been from its first descent onto the lunar surface, as all but a few of the 162 photographs in Apollo 17's Magazine C were ostensibly taken on an excursion away from the LEM.

Whether or not either of us could verify that the lower stacked picture in 3) contains the Rover, Here's an official NASA presentation with overlaid commentary: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bp1UcfrkK8rbMOVaZmqxa8nbVcENLCaL/view?usp=sharing

When the CIA's 1967 memo suggested using the moniker of conspiracy theory to turn the tables against those who might assert that a nefarious act was carried out by multiple people (in government), it was obviously intended to cover for the rising controversy concerning the JFK assassination. Unless you've had your head in the sand for 50+ years, you know that the assassination was a conspiracy. Obviously, Watergate was also a conspiracy unless you're G. Gordon Liddy or you want simply to turn all manner of ridicule onto yourself. There are laws with strict punishments against conspiracy and many events are conspiracies. Having a theory about a conspiracy simply means it's a work in progress and does not deserve ridicule. Take what we now know about the government-ensconced cabal at the White House, DOJ, CIA and FBI concerning coordination to take down PDJT. It's undeniable! We of course have plenty of evidence as to its conspiratorial nature to be able to say that, just as with the hoaxed Apollo missions, whose technology we're laughably told was destroyed so we can't even recreate a moon mission forty-eight years later!

Your inherent condescension toward excusing a conspiracy out of hand is naïve and pre-pre-programmed.

13 posted on 08/06/2020 1:39:52 PM PDT by rx (Truth will out!)
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