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[Autopsy showed he had been hit by 17 of Gramins’ 230-gr. Speer Gold Dot .45 hollowpoints.

Holy crap! ]

Gramins could have used 255-gr +P rounds, but you gotta wonder if it would have made a difference. The point is that it takes a split second for the other guy to fire a round that puts you out of commission, and you want to get him to stop firing in as few split seconds as possible. That means the copious expenditure of ammo until he stops. Which you can’t do if you’re rationing your ammo while he’s plugging away at you.

Makes you wonder about the truth of the stories about .45’s in the PI a century ago being the silver bullet against machete-wielding rebels. They used a 200 gr. bullet back then, lighter than the standard 230 gr. today. Gramins’s gun fight lasted about a minute. In 1 minute, a fit assailant can literally run 400 yards. A .45’s accuracy (due to recoil and the fact that it’s a pistol) is such that you’re lucky to hit someone at 100 yards, let alone score multiple hits. The rebels had a force multiplier - they were fighting alongside kith and kin; they were going to win together or die together. The tale of the .45 being the decisive factor in routing Moro rebels in the Philippines is sounding more and more like a fish story.