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Fact checking Politifact.com: Jerry Nadler didn’t say ‘God has no authority in the House of Representatives’ (Daniel Funke)
peacebyjesuscom.blogspot.com ^ | Sun, 03/07/21 | daniel1212

Posted on 03/07/2021 3:36:42 PM PST by daniel1212

On February 26, 2021, seeking to further its liberal cause, Politifact presented a "fact check" (for which it gets checks) labeling a the Facebook statement as false but which in essence means Politifact labels as false, while also imputing a perverse contextual reason for it which the source did not express.

The statement at issue was one from a Facebook poster, "‘God has no authority in the House of Representatives,’" which was a summation of what Rep. Jerry Nadler, D-N.Y. said in response to Rep. Greg Steube, R-Fla. (who criticized the Equality Act during the House debate, saying it violates Christian beliefs), "Mr. Steube, what any religious tradition describes as God’s will is no concern of this Congress."

Since the Facebook statement was stating in essence what Nadler expressed, I went to Politifact's page which invites us to suggest an item to fact check, suggesting it check itself:

Politifact lists a summary statement as false but which in essence means what Nadler said, while Funke also argues for a justification for it, one which is a partisan perverse interpretation.

Asserting that “What any religious tradition describes as God’s will is no concern of this Congress,” is short for "God’s will is no concern of this government's legislative body" since "any religious tradition" covers all known express revelation of Divine will (and contextually the source was responding to one) while "Congress" includes the House (where the debate too place) as the other branch of the government's legislative body.

Certainly the Facebook post (and social media posts should be the last place you should expect veracity) technically erred in stating "House" (which is where the debate took place) instead of "Congress" and should not have placed its accurate summation in quotes, yet according to your own criteria for fact checking you are supposed to consider whether there is "another way to read the statement"/whether the statement is "open to interpretation" And it should be easy to see that the Facebook caption is expressing what was said in essence.

Moreover, Funke's assertion that Nadler's statement was a reference to the constitutional separation between church and state can only be presumed, while that would be a interpretation in any case. And a perverse one since the First Amendment certainly did mean that the Founders had absolutely no regard for the will of God from any source (es. the Bible so many often quoted), nor that it prevented general affirmation of religion and appeal to its morality, which will so many Founders appealed to.

Thus we rate this statement as MOSTLY FALSE – The statement contains an element of truth (as regards precise words) but ignores critical facts that would give a different impression.

But now that you have labelled this essentially accurate statement as false, your MSM friends can shoot down anyone who charges Nadler with saying what he did indeed express.

And which practice of focusing on one technicality in order to impugn the overall truth of statement is consistent with the liberal bias of PF, in contradiction of its professed "commitment to nonpartisanship and fairness."

Finally, we hope you will not reject the expressed will of God for us according to the Bible, of repentance and faith in the Son sent by the Father to be the Savior of the world, (1 Jn. 4:14), Jesus Christ. Thank you.

Here is a picture of the fact checkers:



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Education; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: deception; equalityact; facebook; florida; gregsteube; jerrynadler; newyork; politifact; politifactcom; poltics; prevaricating

1 posted on 03/07/2021 3:36:42 PM PST by daniel1212
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To: daniel1212

If you’re still on facebook, you gets what you paid for.


2 posted on 03/07/2021 3:39:04 PM PST by farmguy
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To: farmguy

Please read what is posted more fully before responding.


3 posted on 03/07/2021 3:40:37 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save + be baptized + follow Him!)
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Those are fact checkers? A bunch of white people? Where is the diversity? You can’t go around trusting white people.


4 posted on 03/07/2021 3:47:55 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Trump is a deposed Pres. in exile. America is truly a banana republic. Our govt. has been overthrown)
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To: daniel1212

A gaggle of communist Thought Police...
Or
A gaggle of faggots...

Hard to decide...


5 posted on 03/07/2021 3:58:17 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is Joe McCarthy now that we desperately need him sober?)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“ You can’t go around trusting white people.”

VERY good advice.


6 posted on 03/07/2021 4:32:03 PM PST by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Those are fact checkers? A bunch of white people? Where is the diversity? You can’t go around trusting white people.

It's the Outer Limits, where they control the picture....

7 posted on 03/07/2021 4:58:27 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save + be baptized + follow Him!)
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Gateway Pundit left out the first part of Nadler’s remark in its headline, as it often does, making it say something he didn’t really say, after which it went viral. What he said was still repulsive, but they should have quoted him accurately. They’re very bad about that.


8 posted on 03/07/2021 5:12:14 PM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing);)
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To: daniel1212

They use the MOSTLY FALSE to lie.

Mostly false means true.


9 posted on 03/07/2021 5:27:55 PM PST by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Flaming Conservative
Gateway Pundit left out the first part of Nadler’s remark in its headline, as it often does, making it say something he didn’t really say, after which it went viral. What he said was still repulsive, but they should have quoted him accurately. They’re very bad about that.

In today's world that is all they need - note Facebook actually deleted that posts as false, and PF is one FB relies on for such determination. GP should not have used quotes, but that Democrat: God's will no concern of this Congress. But GP is a poor source. See my posts here today.

10 posted on 03/07/2021 6:22:27 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save + be baptized + follow Him!)
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Does anyone have the names of these people? Asking for a friend.


11 posted on 03/07/2021 6:31:53 PM PST by Betty Jane
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I liked it better when people dressed for success.


12 posted on 03/07/2021 7:16:10 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Laughter separates us from despair and gives us a chance at love. --Craig Ferguson)
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To: Betty Jane

https://www.politifact.com/staff/


13 posted on 03/08/2021 5:01:53 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save + be baptized + follow Him!)
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