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To: yelostar

I’m not sure calling it a “mechanical device” is appropriate. Maybe by some obscure dictionary definition but that is what this author is criticizing about using the word “vaccine” incorrectly as well. The mRNA vaccines do trigger the body to produce a spike protein, so that the immune system can learn to attack it. I don’t think that’s really “mechanical”, more “biological”. It’s a 2-step thing instead of the traditional one step where they inject a deactivated version of a virus which the immune system promptly attacks, in this case the injection triggers the body to make the “virus looking thing” and then the body attacks its own creation.

Which to me sounds like an intentional auto-immune disorder. I’m not saying it is unsafe, or safe, just making commentary.


14 posted on 04/08/2021 11:39:49 AM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: monkeyshine

Do you think the science understands the long term potential consequences to this?


17 posted on 04/08/2021 11:45:44 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: monkeyshine

“Which to me sounds like an intentional auto-immune disorder.“

I agree and is what was found during animal trials in ‘05 and ‘12.


18 posted on 04/08/2021 11:46:16 AM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing American youth's future on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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To: monkeyshine
"then the body attacks its own creation."

How do you think every virus ever replicates? It enters cells and has those cells create copies of itself. Those copies then emerge and are attacked as foreign despite being "its own creation" because the immune system responds to things that don't belong. If you get infected with COVID-19, your body's cells are replicating the entire SARS-CoV-2 virus. If you get an mRNA or viral vector vaccine, your body's cells are replicating one small part of the SARS-CoV-2 virus. What's the difference, except that the whole virus causes a bunch of other problems that the one small part doesn't?

"Which to me sounds like an intentional auto-immune disorder."

An auto-immune disorder is when the immune system attacks healthy tissue. That's not what this is. The S-protein is not healthy tissue. T-cells are supposed to attack infected human cells and kill them to terminate pathogen production. Same with cancer cells. The fear around auto-immune disorders and COVID-19 vaccines has been whipped up by people who either don't understand the biology or who do, but are choosing to intentionally mislead people to push their agenda. Don't buy into it; it's a bunch of nonsense.

51 posted on 04/08/2021 1:33:37 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: monkeyshine
The mRNA vaccines do trigger the body to produce a spike protein, so that the immune system can learn to attack it

The mRNA shot is not a vaccine as recognized by the FDA, and Moderna in their own filings state as much. mRNA is technically a gene-therapy. Something which has never been fully approved for use.

I'm not virologist or chemist, but let's all at least agree that the discussions and reports by the media, and others, that the Covid shots are vaccines; is not accurate in the technical sense. So if people choose to mislead and/misrepresent, what is the purpose behind that act.

62 posted on 04/08/2021 2:11:11 PM PDT by voicereason (The RNC is like the "one-night stand" you wish you could forget.)
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