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Addressing The "Concern" Posted On Free Republic That Deaths Following Covid-19 "Vaccination" And Published To VAERS Are COINCIDENTAL And Not Useful Indicators of Safety
5/24/2021 | vanity

Posted on 05/24/2021 2:18:06 PM PDT by ransomnote

I began writing a reply to a post in the forum and decided to make it a standalone thread given both the level of effort expended and the frequency I encounter the issue at hand.

FReeper assertion seen in the forum: There are convincing analyses showing that VAERS is only reporting 1/4 of events (including deaths). That’s still almost 4,000 deaths that should be in VAERS, essentially matching what we see in VAERS. If those assumptions are true, it is entirely coincidental deaths. If you take issue with an assumption please specific.

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51% of events published to VAERS [5/21 data] were reported during December and January.  36 million doses of the Covid 'vaccines' were administered during those 51 days. 

Data analyst Albert Benevenidos (sp) used the ratios of adverse event categories (hospitalizations, deaths, office vists etc.) from those records to estimate number of adverse events reported, but not published, by the CDC during the administration of an additional 230 million doses from February to May.

Using that method, Benvidos estimates there have actually been 12,200 deaths and over 1 million adverse events  reported to the CDC, most of which have not been published. That's close to your 14K.

However, based on a Harvard study which found only about 1% of actual events are ever reported to the CDC, he adjusted that figure. Instead of multiplying by 100 to estimate total numbers of  actual post vaccine deaths, he cut that factor to be extremely conservative, as if half of all Covid deaths are reported to VAERS, an impossibly low ratio.

Assuming 1/2 of all post 'vaccine' deaths were being reported to the CDC , the total adjusted estimate for adverse events following Covid 'vaccination' is 610,000 deaths and 50 million adverse events, according to Benevenidos' analysis.

The CDC is not making much of an effort to monitor safety during the purported Covid 'pandemic' or else it would be vigilant in updating and maintaining VAERS promptly. To clear the air, the CDC can easily refute these numbers by uploading the reports it has received but not published.

Also, there are numerous reports of doctors and patients not able to file reports to the CDC. 

How To Report An Adverse Event To VAERS (CDC Database) ONLINE  Following Covid-19 Vaccination 

On the CDC's  'how to' page for reporting to VAERS, the linked table of 'reportable events' which lists the names of vaccines, does not include Covid. That makes sense, at first, because the Covid 'vaccines' are not actually vaccines. However, it certainly must discourage some from reporting their struggles.

So the numbers of reports the CDC is throttled back by challenges the patients face just to file, as are the CDC's decision to publish only a fraction of the reports it receives to VAERS.

And of course, the Harvard research which found only about 1% of actual vaccine adverse events were ever reported to the CDC was conducted was prior to Covid lockdowns which reduced medical and nursing home staff available to file such reports.

Certainly, there are concerns about reports that at nursing homes are under reporting cause of death a level never seen before.

I've heard that we 'must understand' that the most vulerable were vaccinated first and therefore early reports contained a higher proportion of deaths. I don't know if that's true, because based on the conduct of the CDC since the start of the Plandemic, I'm not willing to assume that the CDC is randomly selecting which records it will upload. They could be selectively withholding death reports based on age or other combinations of demographics and instead publishing less severe adverse events.

Remember that reports from December and January are not updated after the patient leaves the ER or hospital, so if those who were surviving during  their ER visit, hospital stay or other event reported to VAERS, but continued a downward spiral and died afterwards, their deaths are not counted.]

Note that the table below does not include records in which a check mark was missing from a specific field in VAERS, but 'death' or 'autopsy request' was typed in the 'event descripton' for the patient.

Also, of the 80 deaths published to VAERS during this time period but classified as vaccine type 'unknown' about half of the 20 I reviewed had text in the description field which indicated they were Covid 'vaccines'. Therefore, some numbers are still under reported in the table below. 



Note that 270 deaths following Covid vaccines published to VAERS are 'unknown age' and are not shown in the table.

There are many complications with poorly maintained data in VAERS which impedes understanding of the impact vaccines may be having on the public. Again, if the CDC would like to clarify these concerns during what they claim is a national emergency updating and correcting data in VAERS, they have the tax payer funds to do so.

The CDC tracks every vaccination carefully, something they would do even if they weren't preparing to roll out vaccine passport mandates.

I believe the NIH/CDC/FDA have the IT and access/infrastructure to match data from other federal or state databases, like US death certificates, with with vaccine records by Social Security Number, if they wanted to. Hospital software tracks annual deaths by type (accidental death versus illness) so surely there are medical databases which could be matched to vaccination databases  - likely both types of data are sitting in the same system(s) right now. 

Do you think 610,000 deaths following Covid 'vaccinations' is an over estimate? Okay, cut it in half. So the estimate becomes 'only' 305,000 deaths following Covid 'vaccination'. Is everything alright now? 

If you think the CDC is concerned, you'd be wrong. Their only concern is concealing this information from the public.


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1 posted on 05/24/2021 2:18:06 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote

I think everyone knows by now that VAERS is not to be trusted.

Pro-vax or anti-vax. Don’t Matter. VAERS and the CDC make up stuff on a daily basis. None of it matches the truth.

Whatever that may be.


2 posted on 05/24/2021 2:21:37 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I love my country. It’s my government that I hate.)
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To: ransomnote
I've heard that we 'must understand' that the most vulerable were vaccinated first

The voices in your head telling you stuff in terms of "must" now?

That's when it gets serious.

3 posted on 05/24/2021 2:23:26 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

Try some Zoloft, you may feel better.


4 posted on 05/24/2021 2:27:43 PM PDT by mongrel
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To: mongrel
I've heard that a diaper change helps resident Biden.

Maybe humble should take some tips from the adult diaper pro, Jao Xiden.

He might even get a Puddin Pop out of the deal...

5 posted on 05/24/2021 2:30:30 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: ransomnote

Maybe define what VAERS is?


6 posted on 05/24/2021 2:35:27 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: ransomnote

They haven’t the slightest idea of the damage caused by the “vaccine”. Shots are being given in supermarkets, drug stores, street corners, etc. and there is no way that any follow up is being done. Those done in hospitals or by doctors may or may not have follow up depending if they have a doctor/patient (primary care physician) relationship and record access.


7 posted on 05/24/2021 2:37:59 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Corrupt Slow Joe Biden is the Bolshevik sock puppet.)
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To: ransomnote

Thank you for your time and efforts. From the small glimpse we get to see on VAERS these vaccines should’ve been pulled already.


8 posted on 05/24/2021 2:38:42 PM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing American youth's future on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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To: ransomnote

Every death in the United States is subject to a medical investigation to determine the cause of death. Thus far, there are zero deaths where anyone has stated that a COVID-19 vaccine was the cause of a person’s death or contributed to the person’s death anywhere in the United States.

Meanwhile, the vaccines are saving lives. No amount of anti-vaccine hysteria can change that. No amount of wild and crazy claims about a million dead bodies (which don’t exist) can change that. But of course, if the vaccines don’t cure death - regardless of cause - then they must be worthless in the eyes of anti-vaccine extremists.

Save the viruses! Won’t somebody think of the poor viruses?!


9 posted on 05/24/2021 2:43:10 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: ransomnote

Thank you for this information.

It appears that whatever the numbers are, its far beyond a rate where someone should be putting a pause on this program. At least I see they are giving warnings - to a degree.

On a sidebar note, I am also making an anecdotal estimate that most of the country has NOT had this injection as of this time. Here are my reasons:

1. It was estimated that just over 40% of Americans would reject the injection, since the same number rejected the normal flu shots each year. Its assumed these Americans would reject any type of shot.

2. The media campaign. If there is/was cooperation from the public at the level being reported, there would be no need for this campaign. In fact, they would be better off addressing the concerns in a sober matter.

3. As much as social media my try, it is impossible to censor an important issue when people are actually looking for it. If there is a demand for it, it will be on other platforms. And as we too often forget these days, people still talk to one another. I can say I’ve overheard at least 3 conversations between people openly talking about themselves or associates dealing with adverse affects. This has to effect the demand, and reports from this area state the supplies are high.

4. As the recent mask policies, in overheard discussions, it appears most who are still wearing masks are the ones that have been “injected”. Those not wearing masks are clearly less concerned. Having dinner with 10 friends the other night, and only the injected were masked until seated. Noticed the same during a wake at my home a few weeks ago. I suspect there is something more psychological than political about it.

So if you are reading this and still on the fence for themselves or their children, here’s my advice:

Consult your physician. If they insist the injection is of value, have them give it to you in writing. If they are not willing to do that, there’s your answer.

just my $0.02

jimjohn


10 posted on 05/24/2021 2:45:56 PM PDT by jimjohn (...like Donkey Kong.)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

VAERS is the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System. It’s a passive system that accepts reports from anyone anywhere in the world. China, Russia, Nigera; you name it. The reports are not vetted. One doctor in the US put in a VAERS report claiming the flu vaccine turned him into the Incredible Hulk. Another person from the UK put in a VAERS report claiming a vaccine turned his young daughter into Wonder Woman.

For COVID-19 vaccines, healthcare providers are required by law to file VAERS reports for any serious adverse event (e.g. death, hospitalization, etc.) regardless of the cause. So if anyone gets hit by a bus after getting a COVID-19 shot, healthcare providers are required by law to file that in VAERS.

And now you have but a glimpse into the quality of the data in VAERS.


11 posted on 05/24/2021 2:46:28 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: ransomnote
I failed to add two links to the thread post above.

For those who prefer other methods of looking at the data, this researcher walks through analyses indicating, among other things, that deaths from the Covid 'shots' are not coincidental and invites input contradicting her findings.

PHD RESEARCHER ANALYZES VAERS DATA AND CONCLUDES COVID SHOTS ARE CAUSING DEATH AND SERIOUS INJURIES

Here's a video from a few days ago wherein the head of the CDC urges pregnant women to get 'vaccinated' and that she's unaware of any indications they shouldn't.

Dr. Walensky On The COVID-19 Vaccine, Pregnancy, And Fertility [Head of CDC, 'vaccine' promotion claiming no concerns about safety, Video 1.5 minutes long]

13 posted on 05/24/2021 2:50:47 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
Maybe define what VAERS is?

Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System

14 posted on 05/24/2021 2:51:22 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
Thus far, there are zero deaths where anyone has stated that a COVID-19 vaccine was the cause of a person’s death or contributed to the person’s death anywhere in the United States.

Assuming this is true, what a stark contrast with COVID death reporting. The exact opposite, in fact.

So if I died in 2020, it was COVID, no matter what. If I die in 2021, it will NEVER be related to a COVID vaccine. (example exaggerated to make the point)

Is it any wonder the general public does not trust the advice to vaccinate?

15 posted on 05/24/2021 2:54:21 PM PDT by viewfromthefrontier
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To: RetiredTexasVet
Shots are being given in supermarkets, drug stores, street corners, etc. and there is no way that any follow up is being done.

Great post.

The trouble starts at the vaccine location. There is no attempt to identify people who may have medical conditions that may make them more likely to have serious side affects (or worse) from the vaccines.

This is blatant medical malpractice--totally inexcusable.
16 posted on 05/24/2021 2:57:51 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: ransomnote

From the article: “Assuming 1/2 of all post ‘vaccine’ deaths were being reported to the CDC , the total adjusted estimate for adverse events following Covid ‘vaccination’ is 610,000 deaths and 50 million adverse events, according to Benevenidos’ analysis.”

If this were true, and it isn’t remotely, then there would be between 300,000 and 600,000 excess deaths that show up in the mortality statistics.
If this were true, and it isn’t remotely, then approximately one person in five would have experienced an adverse event. (50,000,000 events, 260,000,000 doses administered).

If anyone believes that hundreds of thousands of healthcare professionals would remain silent in the face of 600,000 deaths and 50 million adverse reactions, they must have an incredibly low opinion of doctors, nurses, etc,.


17 posted on 05/24/2021 2:58:54 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: ransomnote

VAERS is the Wikipedia of the Pandemic. Anyone can enter anything and VAERS can be packed with bovine excrement, just like Wikipedia


18 posted on 05/24/2021 2:59:44 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Saving lives? The death rate from this virus is .002%. Further, now that hysteria is dying down, the real data is showing that people who do catch this virus, and who become quite sick with it (most people do not) the infection is easily treated with the chloroquinolone protocol or Ivermectin. If you recall, Pres. Trump recovered after 3 days with Remdisvir, yet another medication that leads to rapid and full recovery. So why, in heaven’s name, would you support the administration of an untested vaccine which has a number of serious and sometimes fatal side effects to prevent an infection which has a very low mortality rate, and is easily cured with the prompt administration of a number of medications, two of which have been safely used for many years, at a time in which herd immunity is close or has already, I suspect, been achieved.


19 posted on 05/24/2021 3:01:07 PM PDT by erkelly
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
Every death in the United States is subject to a medical investigation to determine the cause of death. Thus far, there are zero deaths where anyone has stated that a COVID-19 vaccine was the cause of a person’s death or contributed to the person’s death anywhere in the United States.

I have a bridge for sale in New York city. You can take if off my hands for the low, low price of ten thousand dollars, payable in cash.

And I know of a Prince in Nigeria who will soon come into his fortune. If you invest two thousand dollars now, you will reap returns seven fold when he comes into his kingdom.

I guess you'll believe any old thing, pharma.

Save the viruses! Won’t somebody think of the poor viruses?!

Virii?

Who would ever think to molest a good crisis before the derps have wrung out every advantage from it.

Especially a crisis that they themselves perpetrated.

You can keep your virus AND your fake vax, derp state pharma man. The two go hand in hand.


20 posted on 05/24/2021 3:02:19 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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