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Scientist Discovers What May Cause COVID-19 Vaccine-Linked Blood Clots
Epoch Times ^ | 05/28/2021 | Jack Phillips

Posted on 05/28/2021 7:36:32 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Toad of Toad Hall

Yes, the viral DNA which is what makes the adenovirus vector vaccines functional. It has to go into the nucleus..


21 posted on 05/28/2021 9:06:40 PM PDT by FreedomForce
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To: FreedomForce

Thank you. I appreciate the information. I will read it carefully.

But going back to my first point on this thread, the bottom line for me is this:

What kind of government allows a guy (Fauci) to create a pathogen then when it gets out lets him be the central figure in combating it? We are living in clown world.


22 posted on 05/28/2021 9:06:50 PM PDT by Toad of Toad Hall (nunquam minus solus quam cum solus)
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To: Toad of Toad Hall

I was an early supporter of Fauci but just about everything he’s done over the course of the pandemic has turned me against him to the point that I think he should be tried for crimes against humanity. He needs to crawl under a rock and stay there.


23 posted on 05/28/2021 9:17:27 PM PDT by FreedomForce
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To: SeekAndFind

What is totally missing about all of this is risk benefit ratio of vaccination verses side effects some debilitating and some fatal.

I am 73 with risk factors. I took the shot, it is not a vaccine it is a genetic program to give an antibody response. If I were less than 60 and with no co-morbities I would not have taken the shot as my risk factors would be very small.

Oddly those with severe reactions to the shot are mostly the young with great immune systems. This was the same with the Spanish Flu post WWI. The young with great immune systems went into an auto immune syndrome and it killed them via pulmonary distress in the extreme. They drowned in their own pulmonary fluids.

A note of clarification. To the best of my knowledge deaths from the Covid shots have nothing to do with pulmonary symptoms. It seems blood clots are the problem. I do not know this mechanism relative to the covid shot. There have also been reports of pericarditis and inflammation of the heart in addition. The last two are probably transient and I have no information of permanent damage nor death.

If you are old or have comorbidity take the shot. If not your risk is small and simply a personal decision.


24 posted on 05/28/2021 9:17:56 PM PDT by cpdiii (Texan Coonass Cane Cutter Deckhand Roughneck Geologist Pilot Phamacist & much more education)
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To: cpdiii

I forgot to add this. If you get ill with covid, find a doc that will prescribe Ivermectin, azithromycin or doxycliine, take zinc and Vitamin C and D. You will be okay.

Early treatment is of great importance.


25 posted on 05/28/2021 9:23:14 PM PDT by cpdiii (Texan Coonass Cane Cutter Deckhand Roughneck Geologist Pilot Phamacist & much more education)
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To: Toad of Toad Hall

You should probably read the actual study. The journalist obviously understood it poorly and conveyed his confusion in his writing.

https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-558954/v1

Here, we present first molecular evidence that vector-based vaccines encoding the Spike protein exhibit a problem that is completely absent in mRNA-based vaccines. This is due to the fact that during the vaccination step, the adenoviral DNA enters the nucleus and use the host machinery to transcribe its (trans)genes inside the nucleus.


26 posted on 05/28/2021 9:33:36 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: blueplum

This one caught my eye:

Your study analyzed transcriptome of HeLa cells, which are cancerous cells; could we hope that primary cells respond differently from tumor cells ? It could be interesting to analyze primary cells derived from muscles


27 posted on 05/28/2021 9:45:41 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: Secret Agent Man
Key term here “transcription inside the nucleus” All the smart knowitall jackwagons here screaming at us that it wouldnt get into the cell nucleus. When we were pointing out scientists who were saying it actually was a known possibility it could get into the nucleus. Crickets from those smartass folks now.

What are you even talking about? The AZ and J&J vaccines always involved the nucleus - that's how they are designed. There's no "known possibility" about it - that's the *only* way those vaccines function and the way they were *always* described as functioning from the very beginning. They send a DNA strand into the nucleus which then transcribes the mRNA and sends out of the nucleus into the cell cytoplasm to the ribosomes with the instructions to produce the spike proteins.

Another pretend "new" discovery to refute an argument that was never made about these particular vaccines.

28 posted on 05/28/2021 9:57:24 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: BillyCuccio

“If you knew nano particles were going into your cells, why would you have gotten the shot?” What other kinds of particles would be going into the cells?

“There’s no long term study on what mRNA does to your cells” - we wouldn’t even exist as living, functioning beings without mRNA.


29 posted on 05/28/2021 10:01:12 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Toad of Toad Hall

You said “agreed!” to a comment without any foundation in fact or reality. then you talk about people making sure they are making informed decisions? Seriously?


30 posted on 05/28/2021 10:02:22 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Valpal1
You should probably read the actual study.

Oh, no, we can't do something like that - let facts and reality-based knowledge get in the way of a good false narrative?

31 posted on 05/28/2021 10:03:42 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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BillyCuccio: There’s no long term study on what mRNA does to your cells”

Republican Wildcat- we wouldn’t even exist as living, functioning beings without mRNA.

ransomnote: we'd sure live a lot longer, and without strokes, heart attacks and neurlogical problems etc. before the vaccine induced Autoimmune Enhancement kicks in. 

Your not seriously equating naturally occurring mRNA with the weaponized mRNA known as the Covid-19 'vaccine' are you?

32 posted on 05/28/2021 10:13:15 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Toad of Toad Hall
What kind of government allows a guy (Fauci) to create a pathogen then when it gets out lets him be the central figure in combating it? We are living in clown world.

That is a good question - and either Fauci is playing dumb, or it isn't an act.

33 posted on 05/28/2021 10:20:08 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: SeekAndFind

Bkmk


34 posted on 05/28/2021 10:25:40 PM PDT by kelly4c
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To: Republican Wildcat

Do you disagree with the substance of my point? Or are you just interested in nitpicking my style and making sophomoric quibbles?

I have honest questions and am sincerely interested in the welfare of my fellow man. If you aren’t troubled by the way this has all transpired, wonderful! You’ve been successfully blue-pilled.


35 posted on 05/28/2021 10:30:20 PM PDT by Toad of Toad Hall (nunquam minus solus quam cum solus)
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36 posted on 05/29/2021 4:02:07 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: ransomnote

Weaponized SYNTHETIC mRNA. IOW, a biological hack.


37 posted on 05/29/2021 4:05:58 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

If JnJ is changing/ opimtimizing their adenovirus vector approach (changing it) are they going to submit the new formulation for testing?

Even a minor change to the nucleoside sequence can lead to profound differences in outcome.


38 posted on 05/29/2021 11:37:29 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Republican Wildcat

So the JnJ and AZ vaccines are gene therapy approaches then, right?


39 posted on 05/29/2021 11:40:26 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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