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I’ve been following this story for awhile. The federal officer actually tried to shoot the civilian, but the gun jammed.

The linked site explains the situation well. But the site is more of a commercial site than a news site. So I thought it best to put this post in Chat instead of News.

1 posted on 09/18/2021 10:49:12 AM PDT by Leaning Right
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Federal officers can MURDER people and get away with it. This is nothing new.

Just ask Lon Horiuchi.


2 posted on 09/18/2021 10:52:37 AM PDT by MercyFlush (The American Revolution was a violent revolt against a dictatorship. )
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From the article (scary stuff):

But when Lamb appealed to the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, his victory turned into a defeat because, according to that court, federal officers are entitled to absolute (not qualified) immunity, meaning they cannot be sued at all simply by virtue of being employed by the federal government.


3 posted on 09/18/2021 10:52:42 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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Anyone involved in the Federal Government sees civilians as their enemies.


6 posted on 09/18/2021 10:57:24 AM PDT by JerseyDvl (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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This story is crazy. It sounds like a federal officer can do virtually anything they please to the public but state and local law enforcement must walk on egg shells. Makes you wonder why Pelosi is expanding the capitol police to far-flung parts of the country.


11 posted on 09/18/2021 11:05:52 AM PDT by packagingguy (Kit)
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Gonna stand there making threats?

Fools make threats.

12 posted on 09/18/2021 11:10:34 AM PDT by TigersEye (Resistance is not futile!)
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An eye for an eye. Must mean that Citizens can threaten to shoot Fed Agents in self defense.


13 posted on 09/18/2021 11:11:11 AM PDT by chopperk
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They should have charged the thug with First Degree Attempted Murder along with ALL the other Charges a regular citizen would receive and at no time should ANY Public Servant be Afforded Bail on a Felony Charge.


21 posted on 09/18/2021 11:34:08 AM PDT by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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This should make the “back the blue” “law and order” crowd happy.


27 posted on 09/18/2021 11:47:57 AM PDT by Clemenza
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Guess what kind of employees Nancy’s personal police force falls under?

The ruling is outright wrong - immunity is for acts perpetrated while on duty - not personal ones which this one was and these judges need to be sacked.


28 posted on 09/18/2021 11:49:39 AM PDT by Skywise
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The article doesn’t say if Lamb even identified himself as a Fed. He just drew his gun and began attacking.


29 posted on 09/18/2021 11:52:49 AM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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Thank you for referencing that article Leaning Right. Please note that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

Patriots are reminded that the powers that the states have given to the feds to police the states are expressly constitutionally very limited.

Regarding the mechanic shot by feds in an alleged private dispute, unless the State of Texas had formally requested federal assistance on this issue (yeah, right), the misguided (imo) appeals court judges, along with a wrongly silent Congress, are all helping to violate the Constitution's Article IV, Section 4 imo.

"Article IV, Section 4 (4.4): The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government [emphasis added], and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence."

In fact, Justice Joseph Story had warned us that the delegates to the Constitutional Convention had made 4.4 partly to help prevent the feds from dreaming up excuses to stick their big noses (my words) into sovereign state affairs.

”§ 1819. It may not be amiss further to observe, (in the language of another commentator,) that every pretext for intermeddling with the domestic concerns of any state, under colour of protecting it against domestic violence, is taken away by that part of the provision, which renders an application from the legislature, or executive authority of the state endangered necessary to be made to the general government, before its interference can be at all proper [emphasis added]. On the other hand, this article becomes an immense acquisition of strength, and additional force to the aid of any state government, in case of an internal rebellion, or insurrection against its authority. The southern states, being more peculiarly open to danger from this quarter, ought (he adds) to be particularly tenacious of a constitution, from which they may derive such assistance in the most critical periods.” —Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution, Article 4, Section 4.

The ultimate remedy for unconstitutionally big, alleged election-stealing, Democratic Party-pirated federal and state governments oppressing everybody under their boots...

Consider that all the states can effectively “secede” from the unconstitutionally big federal government by doing the following.

Patriots need to primary federal and state elected officials who don't send voters email ASAP that clearly promises to do the following.

Federal and state lawmakers need to promise in their emails to introduce resolutions no later than 100 days after start of new legislative sessions that proposes an amendment to the Constitution to the states, the amendment limited to repealing the 16th and ill-conceived 17th Amendments.

Insights welcome.

30 posted on 09/18/2021 11:53:58 AM PDT by Amendment10
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Not if I shoot him first in self defense. Shot against federal agents in shooting matches never saw but 2 were any good. One was a retired FBI firearms instructor and the other was and ATF agent.


32 posted on 09/18/2021 11:58:22 AM PDT by DOC44
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They can kill and get away with it. They can always plant evidence, or claim the 80-year old unarmed man was trying to kill the agent.


35 posted on 09/18/2021 12:03:30 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Dethrone the ruling elite. Redistribute their wealth. Take away their power. Annul their privileges.)
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Ghost guns have value.


38 posted on 09/18/2021 12:16:47 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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“... a Texas mechanic who was almost shot to death by a federal officer in a dispute over a purely personal matter...”

Somebody was playing hide the bone with someone else’s wife...me thinketh!😎


41 posted on 09/18/2021 12:20:41 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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Tyranny of government and the Deep State continues to be laid open.


44 posted on 09/18/2021 12:27:58 PM PDT by antidemoncrat (somRead more at: https://economicti)
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They are putting federal agents lives in danger with rulings like that.

If people think they have nothing to lose, it’s not going to take long for there to be a shortage of federal agents.

I’m surprised that hasn’t occurred to the federal thugs.


45 posted on 09/18/2021 12:30:15 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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So, in a personal dispute, rather than a dispute in law, a fed can legally open fire on the guy who is arguing with him?

One step closer to CW II. Thanks, courts!

BLOAT, I guess.


47 posted on 09/18/2021 12:37:22 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Florida: America's new free zone.)
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Federal officers are entitled to absolute (not qualified) immunity, meaning they cannot be sued at all simply by virtue of being employed by the federal government.

This is nonsense I am a retired fed/leo there is no such thing as absolute immunity.

First and foremost you have to be acting within the scope of your authority as established under the limited statutory authority that leos are given. If you are found to be acting outside of your authority the AUSA, your union and even your personnel professional liability insurance will not cover or protect you from personal liability.

You are at the mercy of the US Attorneys Office as to whether they defend you. Remember the BP Agents they prosecuted and through under the bus. The US Attorneys Offices can be very political.

48 posted on 09/18/2021 12:49:40 PM PDT by usurper ( version )
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This could also mean that the regular citizens could end up defending themselves, leading to people getting hurt.


56 posted on 09/18/2021 8:58:38 PM PDT by lurk ( )
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