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1 posted on 09/27/2021 10:38:33 AM PDT by wannabegeek
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I'm not sure a command center constitutes a loss of sovereignty. Among a group of allies, having a command center on any of the members territories is more a matter of logistics than anything else. Granted, I'm not sure why they want one here. NATO was more about protecting Europe from another Hitler.

By the way, if NATO presence in Norfolk bothers, you might like to know about Germany's North American Command Center in Reston Virginia.

https://www.bundeswehr.de/de/organisation/streitkraeftebasis/organisation/streitkraefteamt/bundeswehrkommando-usa-und-kanada/

2 posted on 09/27/2021 10:55:22 AM PDT by fruser1
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Rest of the article :

Once the largest naval port in the world, significant questions persist about how the Pentagon allowed this travesty against the Republic to occur with what appears to have been a black-out of national media attention, no Congressional scrutiny and no Trump Administration participation. I am still wrapping my mind around how easily the usurpation of an American military facility of such prominence could be so quietly accomplished with such finesse requiring so many accomplices.

Stepping back to May, 2017 newly elected President Donald Trump first met with NATO leaders in Brussels. He wasted no time by questioning NATO’s relevance and asserting that “Twenty-three of the 28 nations are still not paying what they should be paying and what they’re supposed to be paying for their defense,” Trump said. “This is not fair to the people and the taxpayers of the United States.”

In January, 2018, seemingly out of the blue, the city of Norfolk adopted an ordinance to accept a donation of three traffic signs. Those signs acknowledged Norfolk as Home to the North American NATO Headquarters. For some residents that may have come as a shock but city documents reveal that Norfolk has been ‘home’ to the only North American headquarters for the North Atlantic NATO since 1953. By early 2018, NATO sought to ‘formalize’ the details with the donation and a letter of acceptance.

Yet it was not until six months later in June, 2018 that NATO’s North Atlantic Defense Ministers formally adopted the Alliance’s command structure to establish a new Atlantic Command in Norfolk as the only operational NATO Atlantic Command in North America. As one of three regionally focused joint, operational-level commands, all Commands would report directly to the Supreme Allied Commander Europe.

In other words, what was once the US Navy’s largest and most sophisticated naval base in the world and on US soil would now be under the command of NATO. Yet there is no real substantive background to know exactly how the United States agreed to relinquish its historic naval claim on Norfolk.

On 28 May 2021, the North Atlantic Council approved the nomination of General Philippe Lavigne, French Air and Space Force, to the post of Supreme Allied Commander Transformation. General Lavigne is currently serving as the French Air and Space Force Chief of Staff. General Lavigne will assume the appointment as successor to General André Lanata, French Air and Space Force, at a change of command ceremony at the Headquarters of Supreme Allied Command Transformation in Norfolk, Virginia in September 2021.

As any engaged citizen might ask, where was President Donald Trump when all this was going on in 2018?

By July 2019, NATO’s newest operational command at Norfolk was created as part of the Alliance’s command structure adaptation and serves as the first NATO headquarters dedicated to the Atlantic Ocean since 2003. Its assigned mission was to protect the Strategic Lines of Communication across all domains, protect sea-lanes between Europe and North America and enable the reinforcement of Europe, as necessary.

On September 17, 2020, six weeks before the 2020 Presidential election, Royal Navy Rear Admiral Andrew Betton, Deputy Commander of the Joint Force Command Norfolk and US Vice Admiral Andrew Lewis, Commander of the Command, cut the ribbon during the Initial Operational Capability ceremony at NATO’s New Norfolk Command Center. Neither President Trump nor any representative from his Administration were in attendance.

On October 16, 2020, seventeen days before the 2020 election, the City of Norfolk unveiled a new sign at its arrival airport terminal which read “Welcome to Norfolk - NATO’s Home in North America”. By that date, the US Navy’s base in Norfolk became known as home to both NATO-Allied Command Transformation (ACT) and the Joint Force Command Norfolk (JFC). Hundreds of civilian and military personnel representing over 30 Member NATO countries had already relocated to Norfolk area.

On May 28, 2021, the North Atlantic Council approved the nomination of General Phillippe Lavigne, French Air and Space Force, as Supreme Allied Commander Transformation at the Norfolk base.

On June 4, 2021, NATO Chief Jens Stoltenberg called for more investment from members of the Alliance and adherence to NATO’s 2030 agenda issued in 2020 “making sure [that] NATO remains strong militarily, becomes even stronger politically and takes a ‘more global approach.’”

On July 15, 2021, with little public fanfare or awareness, the Allied Joint Force Command Norfolk declared its NATO base at Norfolk to be at Full Operational Capability. During a ceremony on board the USS Kearsarge which was largely a formality since NATO’s presence achieved initial operational capability in September, 2020 - less than two months prior to the 2020 Presidential election.

According to Vice Adm. Lewis who leads the US Second Fleet and the JFC Norfolk, its NATO mission is in response to increased Russian submarine activity in the Atlantic, increased military traffic including Chinese warships cruising the Aleutian Islands and an interest in securing the Atlantic Ocean’s sea-lanes between Europe and North America.

Also in attendance on the Kearsarge was Chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Mark Milley, now revealed as an insurrectionist, who gave a twenty minute dissertation during which he never once mentioned the word ‘peace.’ Obviously aware of the imminent NATO-Norfolk union, and as the President’s Chief military advisor, did General Milley ever inform President Trump of NATO’s move to Norfolk or that he would be attending the ceremony to celebrate NATO’s operational status at what was once the US Norfolk Naval Base.

As Milley described it,
“It’s the mission of this command to fight the Battle of the Atlantic in the event of armed conflict, these will be the admirals in charge of a Battle for the Atlantic ... I would tell you that the survival of NATO, the success or failure in combat in a future war in Europe, would largely depend on the success or failure of this command.”

Again, President Trump’s absence is noted and alarming, given that we now know of Milley’s penchant to assume decision-making which he has no authority to assume and without informing his Commander in Chief. Or was Trump asleep at the wheel or the victim of his own flawed official appointments - too many of whom were less than loyal to their President?

Most importantly, what are the implications of NATO’s Article 5 with its roots now entangled into the American land mass? Infamous on its own, Article 5 dates back to 1949 and provides that

“... if a NATO Ally is the victim of an armed attack, each and every other member of the Alliance will consider this act of violence as an armed attack against all members and will take the actions it deems necessary to assist the Ally attacked.”

The only time Article 5 has ever been invoked was immediately after the 911 attack on the Twin Towers in NYC which potentially could have committed NATO troops to participate in the US-led attack on Afghanistan.

Looking ahead, what role might Article 5 play if the current Covid-vaccination-passport debate reaches an insoluble threshold within any Member nation or could NATO legitimately claim its Article 5 authority to intercede to protect the peace?


4 posted on 09/27/2021 10:58:12 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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Did you have vapors when the Germans had an airbase in New Mexico for a number of years?


5 posted on 09/27/2021 11:03:02 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: wannabegeek

America was an amazing country, while it lasted. When the lefties got rid of prayer in school and legalized the murder of pre-born babies, God took His guiding hand off of the US. I believe that at one time, the UK found favour in God’s eyes, as did her daughter countries and He blessed them. We, these daughter countries (Canada, Australia, New Zealand, S. Africa, etc.), and the ‘mother’ country, turned from God before the US did, and the blessings of His, are gone.

We need to pray for the ‘remnant’ of His people, as these countries are being brought down, by ignoring Him. What we are seeing now, is just the beginning. As the old rock anthem goes, “You ain’t seen nothing yet!” Will our respective countries be brought down by the CCP, or pulled asunder from within? Only God knows, but He does lay out that, without His intervention in the midst of tribulation, none would be saved.

Maranatha.


7 posted on 09/27/2021 11:16:51 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (Ceterum autem censeo Justinius True-dope-us esse delendam)
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I mean, America basically runs NATO, so...


9 posted on 09/27/2021 11:50:49 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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