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1 posted on 10/06/2021 6:20:38 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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Selling the USS Kitty Hawk and USS John F. Kennedy like that for scrap is disgusting.

The US just practiced launching F-35s from the deck of a new Japanese aircraft carrier.... created by converting one of their helicopter carriers. Likewise, Japan has converted destroyers recently into aircraft carriers as well, retrofitting the destroyers with flattops.

The sale should be cancelled and re-direct those carriers to Japan or another friendly country for the upcoming fight with China. Those aircraft carriers are still perfectly capable of navigating waters in the South and East China Seas... stacked with F-35s or other planes/helicopters of their choosing.


2 posted on 10/06/2021 6:21:37 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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The Kitty Hawk was pretty famous in its time.


3 posted on 10/06/2021 6:22:21 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
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Our tax dollars at work!


4 posted on 10/06/2021 6:22:27 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (“I’m not the olny one!”)
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Don’t worry, they’ll again see the ocean as carriers...except they will be under the Chinese flag as we’re more of a ‘service industry’ country now.


5 posted on 10/06/2021 6:23:42 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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It is going to be expensive to scrap those ships. There are so many hazardous materials (oil, asbestos etc.) and the environmental laws in the US are strict. Most commercial ships are scrapped in places like Indonesia with lax environmental laws.


6 posted on 10/06/2021 6:23:43 AM PDT by gunnut
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They should have at least sold them a say 25%-50% under scrap price to recover some tax dollars. Scrappers still make money, Fed’s get at least some money back. Ridiculous.


7 posted on 10/06/2021 6:24:37 AM PDT by BBQToadRibs2
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The cut-price fee reflects the fact the company will profit from selling the ship metal for scrap, officials said.

What an odd sentence.

Does Apple new their newest iPhone at cut-price cost? According to the sentence above, one would expect a cut-price cost -- if the company will profit. Which is to say: Huh????

8 posted on 10/06/2021 6:26:47 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (China is like the Third Reich. We are Mussolini's Italy. A weaker, Jr partner, good at losing wars.)
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One wonders about any connections between International Shipbreaking Limited (ISL) and Texas politicians and/or various former admirals and soon-to-be-retired admirals.

Earlier this year International Shipbreaking Limited (ISL) received its European Union Ship Recycling Regulation (EU SRR) accreditation for its site in Brownsville, Texas.


10 posted on 10/06/2021 6:27:28 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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Scrapping a naval ship is undignified. They should be consigned to the deep to be presided over by Neptune…


12 posted on 10/06/2021 6:27:46 AM PDT by Magnatron
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I want an aircraft carrier!!!


13 posted on 10/06/2021 6:28:33 AM PDT by Scarlett156 (#CowboysAndMoslems2021)
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I expect you’ll get the negative knee-jerk reaction from FReepers don’t understand the situation.

Scrapping of large ship in the United States is very costly and full of potholes around environmental issues. There is probably tons of asbestos on each of the ships. The boilers are likely to be radioactive(no not from nuclear but from fossil fuel). The paint alone is a nightmare - one will have to dispose of it by approved methods. And lastly the price of scrap steel is down, practically not worth hauling to the scrapper. I suspect the steel used in aircraft carriers will bring more than your scrapped car would, but not enough to make up the deficit of the labor and materials to render to scrap. The real money is probably in the bronze, copper and electronics(gold).


15 posted on 10/06/2021 6:32:02 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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Hey, it’s great to be careless with money when it isn’t yours.


16 posted on 10/06/2021 6:35:07 AM PDT by antidemoncrat (somRead more at: https://economicti)
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Ahhhh...the U.S. surrenders again.


17 posted on 10/06/2021 6:37:22 AM PDT by moovova (There will never be another fair presidential election in the USA.)
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The US Navy betraying the taxpayer


30 posted on 10/06/2021 7:07:12 AM PDT by butlerweave
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I knew it. The Marines paid $1 for the USS Princeton to use as an LPH in 1959. I have always maintained that the Marines were overcharged.


31 posted on 10/06/2021 7:10:48 AM PDT by NTHockey (My rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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Oh man, I had dibs on the Kitty Hawk!


35 posted on 10/06/2021 7:18:30 AM PDT by TonyInOhio (H-O-L-D F-A-S-T)
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I would have bought the Kitty Hawk.

Anchor it just over 12 Nautical miles off the Southeastern Coast, declare it my own Country, make it into a Casino, Entertainment venue.

Cha-Ching!!


37 posted on 10/06/2021 7:24:07 AM PDT by David Chase
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CVA-63 Tonkin bump


41 posted on 10/06/2021 7:31:36 AM PDT by glock rocks (orange man bad-ass)
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This perfectly demonstrates that no one spends your money better than you. Taking money from others and spending it throws all fiscal sanity out the window. If the taxpayers were the ones in charge of “retiring” these carriers, they would have been sold to the highest bidder with the proceeds going into the “pot” but since the government obtained these vessels with other people's money, they gave them away.
42 posted on 10/06/2021 7:32:31 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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I imagine mooring fees on a 1000-foot long (derelict) boat are pretty substantial. At least they didn’t pay someone to scrap them.

On the other hand, they would have made very nice artificial reefs. And ships sunk properly (Lulu, Benwood, Hilma Hooker, et al) make for very popular scuba diving sites.


44 posted on 10/06/2021 7:36:48 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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