Posted on 11/06/2021 8:25:19 PM PDT by conservative98
Blank ammunition has a distinctive look: a crimped or wadded tip instead of a bullet. But dummy rounds are supposed to be stand-ins for real bullets, inert but identical or nearly identical.
"You know, it's the most concerning thing to me when I'm on set because they are intentionally made to look identical to a live round," Bryan Carpenter, a longtime armorer whose recent work includes USA Network’s "Queen of the South," told Fox News Digital.
Depending on the manufacturing process, some have a hole in the casing. High-end dummies don’t, according to Carpenter.
Santa Fe deputies said they recovered a mix of blank rounds, dummies and real bullets from the set after the accidental shooting.
"You have to go through and just be ultra, mega careful with these things — because they look identical," Carpenter stressed.
He told Fox News Digital that the practical way to be sure a round is a dummy and not real is to shake it and listen for the distinct sound of B.B.s rattling inside.
"The only way to actually identify if a round is a dummy round or not is to physically have it in your hand and physically shake it," he said. "That's it. Period. I mean, there's literally no other way to do it."
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Doesn’t matter. The bimbo allowed real rounds on set and let people take them shooting after work. (posing for selfies in-between of course)
Doesn’t matter. Baldwin allowed real rounds on set and let people take them shooting after work.
The bimbo didn’t keep live ammo off the set. The dumbo didn’t check the weapon. Adjoining jail cells is definitely called for or maybe they can shoot it out with loaded shotguns at 6 feet. Two dummies with 00 Buck.
Apparently she had more than one job, they were paying peanuts and she did not have tenure to know better (but Alec an the AD did know)
Her ultimate responsibility as the armorer was to make sure that a “cold” gun was “cold.”
One job.
Also I’m sure she didn’t purchase the ammo for the set. Lots of people were saying she should have known by just by looking at the ammo because it would have a crimp. Wrong. According to the expert the dummy rounds look identical.
Why would they need to look real if they’re never seen by the camera?
So many unanswered questions ... IMHO a good civil attorney could sue and convict the whole crew on the set.... Make them “shoot holes” in all the different scenarios he could come up with.....settle or we'll see you in court...
Seems like someone would figure out that a dummy round loaded in a pistol could have a pretty big hole drilled in the case. Nobody will see the side.
“Dummies are meant to look like bullets but don’t fire, useful in Old West movies in which the camera can see into a revolver’s cylinder.”
To me paychecks don’t mean shitz. You got a job, you took it. Ride for the brand or get off the ranch. But an idiot pointed a loaded weapon at another person, cocked the hammer, and pulled the trigger. Lots of men swung on a rope for this kind of thing.
Could or could not.
“Depending on the manufacturing process, some have a hole in the casing. High-end dummies don’t, according to Carpenter.”
Not inert. Blanks have primers and powder in them to make them go 'BANG!'
... and listen for the distinct sound of B.B.s rattling inside.
BBs? BBs would be projectiles. You could hear the powder rattling around inside.
Whoever this is saying that blanks are inert and have BBs inside doesn't know what they're talking about.
I could seat a bullet in a case with a spent primer and no powder that would look real, if you didn’t look at the primer, but why? How many movies do you see close ups of ammunition, other than in bandoliers or cartridge belts? They can edit scenes and do cutaways so you would never need to do a ‘loading‘ scene and a shooting scene in the same take. The armorer should have been all over these issues. And she should have schooled the actors on some basic firearms safety if there were operable firearms on the set. Her job was 1) safety, and 2) realism, in that order. Claiming she didn’t know there was live ammo on the set, or that she didn’t know the revolver was loaded, are admissions of dereliction of her responsibility.
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