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The new COVID war: Redefining vaccinated
Axios ^ | 11/19/21 | Caitlin Owens

Posted on 11/19/2021 9:39:20 PM PST by conservative98

As health officials push COVID booster shots, a debate is quickly emerging around whether the definition of "fully vaccinated" should be changed to include an additional dose of the vaccine.

Why it matters: Booster shots provide remarkably strong protection against coronavirus infections, at least for a period of time. But getting the majority of Americans to stick out their arm again would be extremely challenging.

Driving the news: Two governors said this week that they don't consider people who haven't received a booster shot to be fully vaccinated.

"We're 11 months into the vaccination program. In my view, if you were vaccinated more than six months ago, you’re not fully vaccinated," Connecticut Gov. Ned Lamont said yesterday.

"We are analyzing what we can do to create those incentives — and potentially mandates — for making sure that people are fully vaccinated, which means three vaccines," New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham said Wednesday.

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1 posted on 11/19/2021 9:39:20 PM PST by conservative98
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To: conservative98

“Booster shots provide remarkably strong protection against coronavirus infections...”

Play on words. They were never designed to protect against the virus, just to try to build enough tcells for the body to make the illness less dangerous when you get it...not to stop it. You can get it if you get the shots.

wy69


2 posted on 11/19/2021 9:50:32 PM PST by whitney69
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To: whitney69
Geez! That reminds me!

I didn't get my rubella, smallpox, polio and other boosters this year!

3 posted on 11/19/2021 9:52:09 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: conservative98

The Fauxcy COVID Flu Shots are NOT a vaccine.


4 posted on 11/19/2021 9:53:31 PM PST by Paladin2 (Critical Marx Theory is The SOLUTION....)
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To: Paladin2

Just how is this Flu season doing anyway?


5 posted on 11/19/2021 9:54:27 PM PST by Paladin2 (Critical Marx Theory is The SOLUTION....)
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To: conservative98

A less than 6 month immunization period (if even THAT) is NOT a proper vaccine let alone something that can save the herd unless you can somehow manage to get everybody injected once every 5 months.

this is nothing more than irrational, illogical, emotional thinking - What we’re doing isn’t working... do it more often!


6 posted on 11/19/2021 9:58:38 PM PST by Skywise
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To: conservative98
Many of those that got the shot just to shut someone up, were nagged to death about it, did it to "protect your family and others" or did it to save their job and "get on with their lives" are going to be pissed. Especially after all of the shenanigans of "you wont get COVID if you get vaccinated", "Vaxed, not Masked" and other egregious lies.

Everyone is going to get COVID. There is no avoiding it. Take vitamins, get enough sleep, demand early treatment, drop a few pounds and take care of yourself. That is how we are going to put this behind us.

7 posted on 11/19/2021 10:03:26 PM PST by frogjerk (I will not do business with fascists)
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To: Skywise

2 months for J&J.


8 posted on 11/19/2021 10:03:47 PM PST by frogjerk (I will not do business with fascists)
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To: Skywise

Just how long can people go, getting “boosters” every 6 months before their immune systems are so desensitized that they fail to respond to normal events? Eventually a common cold or scratch is going to generate an infection that kills, because the immune system is burned out.


9 posted on 11/19/2021 10:05:21 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Biden/Harris - illegitimate and everyone knows it.)
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To: whitney69

If you draw the graph line, using the top three vaccines...they all start showing a loss of protection by the end of the second month. There’s a Swedish university in the past week that released a full report.

Moderna is about the only one that still has 50-percent effective nature at the 7th month.

Way that I see it....you’d have to re-vax about every five months to have any real protection.


10 posted on 11/19/2021 10:29:33 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: Skywise

the flu vaccine has a waning 6 month protection window, so does the ebola vaccine:
Intraseason waning of influenza vaccine protection:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28039340/

https://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/clinicians/vaccine/index.html


11 posted on 11/19/2021 10:31:52 PM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: Paladin2

500 case flu breakout on campus in MI (pop 70K)
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4013710/posts

also a few other campuses, but nothing huge yet


12 posted on 11/19/2021 10:34:22 PM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: blueplum
Each year flu shots are created to protect from what we think will be the most likely prevalent strains during the season. Some times they are right and some times they are way off. Either way there is some decision to try and target certain strains. They have also been tested for years and are not mRNA based.

Now, if Delta is the dominant strain of Batflu (which these vaccines are not designed for) how is pumping more of the same ineffective juice going to really help you?

13 posted on 11/19/2021 10:41:51 PM PST by frogjerk (I will not do business with fascists)
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To: Paladin2

Just how is this Flu season doing anyway?
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Hard to say. Last year less than 2000 cases of the flu.

This year, Flu and Pneumonia reported together. Rumor has it we never needed flu shots - flu stats were combined with much larger pneumonia stats to get us to obediently line up for flu shots. I haven’t seen stand-alone flu numbers this year.


14 posted on 11/19/2021 10:43:56 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: frogjerk
Take vitamins, get enough sleep, demand early treatment, drop a few pounds and take care of yourself.

Agreed. Don't make yourself an easy prey for this bug.
Also, not a bad idea to order some ivermectin and have it on hand when needed.

15 posted on 11/19/2021 10:58:53 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: frogjerk

And recall that Pfizer and Moderna are TWO shots for one dose with about a month in between doses so their effective range is about 2 months too!


16 posted on 11/19/2021 11:00:24 PM PST by Skywise
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To: ThunderSleeps; All
Yup. That’s why no one in our family has ever been subjected to flu shots, and we don’t get the flu. Same goes with this Covid fiasco. The Covid numbers are bs. Drownings are reported as Covid deaths.

Americans are being CONDITIONED for CONTROL and MONEY.

Seeing people wandering around wearing masks outdoors is a pathetic sight.

17 posted on 11/19/2021 11:27:24 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: conservative98

“ But getting the majority of Americans to stick out their arm again would be extremely challenging.”
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“Extremely challenging.” Yeah, kind of like Gerard Butler’s King Leonidas telling the Persian emissary, “Submission. Well, that’s going to be a problem.”

I will get a booster when a bunch of government goons hold me down for it with a gun or 3 pointed at my head, after I just shot a bunch of their colleagues, not before. Ditto for my family.


18 posted on 11/19/2021 11:37:57 PM PST by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: El Cid; frogjerk

Also take aspirin (enteric coated to protect your stomach) every day, along with NAC, and don’t forget plenty if Vitamin D and zinc (the latter with food, trust me on that), plus either Quercetin or green tea extract to help the zinc into your cells. Do just those few things, and you significantly boost your odds of staying out of the hospital or dying - at any age, in any health condition.


19 posted on 11/19/2021 11:44:33 PM PST by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: conservative98

in the fall of 2020 i received two vaccines. One was the flu which i get every year. The second one was a pneumonia vaccine which i didnt even knew existed but the doc recommended so i said ok.

no more. if my doc recommends a vaccine now i will be hesitant and will definitely want to see the vial.

the doc said the VAXX is safe and effective and i should get it, the company line. i did not respond.

this political VAXX is destroying doc/patient relationships.


20 posted on 11/19/2021 11:58:15 PM PST by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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