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1 posted on 02/02/2022 1:14:43 PM PST by libh8er
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I have worked in IT departments where the motto was “We fix more things than we break.” I am not comfortable with a medical superstructure that imposes the same mindset.


2 posted on 02/02/2022 1:16:33 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ( “to defend themselves, they are using the same weapons with which they were struck.”Pope St. Pius X)
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It also cures myocarditis, hemorrhagic strokes, and cancer! Influenza killed itself off thinking about mRNA shots!


3 posted on 02/02/2022 1:18:55 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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“mRNA technology is making waves with the success of the COVID-19 vaccines”

They don’t wor

For Car-T use of Il-12 or other cytokines is more direct and safe.

It’s ludicrous to think mRNA would be used for this in vino.


4 posted on 02/02/2022 1:19:14 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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There are anti-FAP cells?


5 posted on 02/02/2022 1:22:24 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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“mRNA technology is making waves with the success of the COVID-19 vaccines by Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna. “

Welcome to Earth.


6 posted on 02/02/2022 1:22:34 PM PST by dljordan
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Moderna ? Pfizer ?

No thanks. I’ve learned my lesson.


7 posted on 02/02/2022 1:22:44 PM PST by BrexitBen
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Shot #5 to fix what shot #4 broke, which was to fix what shot #3 broke

lovely world — the only one making $$$ is Big Pharma


8 posted on 02/02/2022 1:23:19 PM PST by George from New England
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“... with the success of the COVID-19 vaccines by Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna.”

pure bs.


11 posted on 02/02/2022 1:27:03 PM PST by dadfly
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Not sure how the medical community can ever win back the trust they have lost over the past two years.


12 posted on 02/02/2022 1:27:48 PM PST by TheDon (Resist the usurpers)
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"promising experimental therapy"

That's basicaly how they sold us CV19 mRNA jabs imo.

13 posted on 02/02/2022 1:32:58 PM PST by Amendment10
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Here's what I read in it (I did the boldfacing):
"There’s one caveat to the Penn team’s current approach, though. Despite an improvement in interstitial fibrosis, the mRNA treatment still left behind some persistent FAP-negative perivascular fibrosis, the researchers noted."

And:
The interstitial fibrosis contributes to the stiffness of the heart, which impairs both the pump function and the relaxation, resulting in cardiac dysfunction, Aghajanian explained. Perivascular fibrosis can affect oxygen and nutrient exchange that may worsen heart disease."

What I can't gleam from this is if the mRNA jab was found to cause the perivascular fibrosis when trying to eradicate the interstitial fibrosis, or if the perivascular fibrosis was always there and the mRNA treatment didn't get it all out.

15 posted on 02/02/2022 1:37:26 PM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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great but couldnt they have done this without forced experimentation on the world population?


16 posted on 02/02/2022 1:38:45 PM PST by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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It’s absurd.

The whole premise is that mRNA vaccine side effects - properties they tried to minimize - will activate the innate immune system via RNA activation of Toll like receptors. This is RNA that is not supposed to ever be free in the blood.

They could use dead bacteria to do the same thing or bacterial proteins like flagella, or lipopolysaccarides. They could use straight DNA.

All of these will activate an innate immune response and release cytokines, but the types and amount can vary greatly depending on a person’s cellular and molecular physiology at the time.

They can more safely get their effect with interleukin-12 or interferon-alpha.


19 posted on 02/02/2022 1:46:42 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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Booster my butt NOW!


21 posted on 02/02/2022 1:48:53 PM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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23 posted on 02/02/2022 1:58:49 PM PST by PMAS (Vote with your wallets, there are 80 million of us - No China made, No Amazon)
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So, the shot that caused the problems is going to provide the solutions and cure. Cute!!


24 posted on 02/02/2022 1:59:30 PM PST by Parmy
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25 posted on 02/02/2022 1:59:42 PM PST by fruser1
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Is this article satire? mRNA vaccines that cause clotting, strokes, myocarditis, and heart attacks... are sold as heart treatments? This is a PERFECT talking point for an age where men are women, high inflation equals economic growth, and massive vote stuffing in non-secured drop boxes is the most secure election in history. Virtually everything is a lie and a manipulation.


26 posted on 02/02/2022 2:00:34 PM PST by One4Life (It's all about control )
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“with the success of the COVID-19 vaccines”
That’s in the first sentence, I stopped reading this propaganda right there.


28 posted on 02/02/2022 2:03:54 PM PST by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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While I’m sure mRNA shots may have some useful applications, but they were hardly a smashing success with the COVID-19 virus. But I still would be hesitant to try it nonetheless. By the time it got FDA approval it would most likely be too late for me anyway.


29 posted on 02/02/2022 2:06:32 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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