Posted on 04/13/2022 8:30:49 PM PDT by Morgana
Michigan police have released footage of a black man being shot in the back of the head by a white cop during a struggle over a Taser following a traffic stop in Grand Rapids, sparking protests across the city with hundreds of people calling for justice.
Amid public outcry for transparency, police released the footage on Wednesday showing Patrick Lyoya, 26, face down on the ground as he is fatally shot outside a house in Grand Rapids, Michigan on April 4.
The vides also depicts the events leading up to the shooting, including the traffic stop that led to a brief foot chase and struggle over the cop's Taser.
The white officer repeatedly ordered Lyoya to 'let go' of his Taser, at one point demanding: 'Drop the Taser!'
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Citing a need for transparency, the city's new police chief, Eric Winstrom, released four videos, including critical footage of the shooting recorded by a passenger in Lyoya's car on that rainy morning.
'I view it as a tragedy. ... It was a progression of sadness for me,' said Winstrom, a former high-ranking Chicago police commander who became Grand Rapids chief in March. The city of about 200,000 people is about 150 miles (240 kilometers) northwest of Detroit.
Video shows Lyoya running from the officer who stopped him for driving with a license plate that didn't belong to the vehicle. They struggled in front of several homes while Lyoya's passenger got out and watched.
Winstrom said the fight over the Taser lasted about 90 seconds. In the final moments, the officer was on top of Lyoya, kneeling on his back at times to subdue him.
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I assume assignments and promotions today are less about seniority or merit, but instead about increasing diversity.
I know this won’t be popular but I think the problem for a lot of people is going to be the fact that he shot him in the head.
NI would think that under most use of force policies this was an authorized use of deadly force. That being said the courts are going to hold him to the reasonable standard.
I don’t know that they will find it reasonable for him to shoot the perp in the head. I assume the talking point will be that he could have shot him in the shoulder or other area of the body. It is hard to guess what will happen.
Thank you so much.
I think in the parishes here, you have to work in the jails/penal system first for a year or so, before going into the academy.
He had some interesting stories he told me about the inmates. A Cuban hitman under federal protection, murderers, and the death of a child molester.
He originally wanted to get on with NOPD, several years ago, but after several interviews he was turned down.
I could have gotten him in just making a call to one political family there I grew up with to get him on the force, but there was no way. That place is horrible.
He says he plans to go into cybercrime after he finishes his Master’s.
It’s amazing how much he changed after entering the military.
How long should a cop wrestle with someone trying to escape? Till one of them is dead? And most people would prefer the cop?
I don’t what happened to Common Sense.
I would never take on that job, but I would have let Congo man run, and impound the vehicle.
the smell of money.
In my view, such stories demonstrate that we are at a "tipping point" - that our society / the "System" is barely still functioning, but that it has nearly reached the point at which the Manichaean forces fighting for control will see power change hands.
Regards,
I doubt their thinking is that complex. They're simply being impulsive, reacting moment-to-moment, with no clear plan or thought for longterm consequences. (Longterm, as in beyond the next 15 to 30 seconds.)
If I wish to kill my neighbor, I don't have to collude with a rabid dog that might bite him. In fact, it's impossible to conspire with a rabid dog - after all, it's a rabid dog.
But it is possible to change the rules of the game (through legislation; through getting "my people" into positions of power; through controlling the media) to engineer it such that my neighbor, when confronted with a rabid dog, will have to bend over backwards in attempting to remove the rabid dog from his property without injuring it.
The "rabid dogs" in these cases aren't "gaming the system" to their advantage (though I do believe that they are gradually growing aware of the fact that they have more "leeway" than they did in the past in resisting Law Enforcement Officers).
Rather, it is the Leftists who are instrumentalizing this human trash for their own purposes.
Regards,
Give the cop a machete and let him chop off the perp’s hand. Excessive? Perhaps. But at least the perp lives and the cop has disarmed his taser. And the perp’s friends can start calling him “Lefty”.
All this talk nowadays about where to put trannies in the prison system. They act as if there were never trannies in prison before today. There was a male hispanic inmate at Auburn when I started. He was older, probably in his 50's...had long grey hair, and had been taking hormone shots, so he had breasts. He did his time in the male prison with the rest of the men, and there was never any issues. I just read today that two female inmates at a prison in New Jersey are pregnant by a male tranny they transferred there. How stupid are these people? I wish you, and your son the best of luck in the future, and please thank him for his service. Take care.
I totally agree with you. I'm just glad that I'm on the tail-end of my life, and hopefully won't live long enough to see this country totally go down the shit hole.
I'm glad that you and I see things the same way - but I am infuriated by the frequent expressions on this board of "glad that I'm so old I won't see it happen."
It really is a useless addendum, and sounds very... Well, the British have the expression, "I'm all right, Jack."
Regards,
License plates are racist.
Crump will say that running license plates is racial profiling. He will demand, and the lefties will agree, that license plates should only be run with probable cause, that is, something else.
It will soon be illegal for police to check a license plate just because it's in front of them. The police will have to dismantle all of the new automated license plate readers in their police cars, if the left gets its way after this.
-PJ
Yeah, they do have some weird sayings like everything's tickety-boo, Bob's your uncle, etc. I watch a lot of British programs, and every so often I learn a new word or saying. One program is about a dealer who salvages items for resale. Whenever he finds a particular item that hits all the bells and whistles, he says "It's an absolute belter!" A British friend one time told me her future son-in-law had given the family a hamper for Chistmas, and I wondered to myself, now why would someone give their future in-laws a dirty clothes hamper? I later learned that their hampers are gift boxes usually full of different types of food.
Just learned a bit of trivia while reading a book about the colony of New Amsterdam. The author mentioned some of the Dutch influences that took hold here. One of them is the word cookie. In Dutch it's spelled koekje. It's pronounced kook-yeh. When the British took over New Amsterdam, and renamed it New York after the Duke of York, thank God people kept the Dutch term that evolved into cookie, or we'd all be calling our cookies, biscuits like the Brits.
My father was born in Holland, and my mother, although born in Canada, had some Dutch ancestors who settled in New Amsterdam. My father was about 8 when he came here. He was a good cook, much better than my mother. His name for oven mitts were "handshoes," and we always made fun of him, thinking it was something he made it up. One night I was watching that same program about the salvage dealer, and he and his truck driver were in Holland to buy antiques to take back to Wales. His driver was reeling off some Dutch terms, and what they mean. Then he said: handschoenen, and that it means gloves/mittens. So after all these years, I realized that my father was actually speaking the Dutch word for those oven mittens. I wish he'd told us that back then.
When you speak several languages fluently (as I do), you are constantly encountering such felicitous expressions and interesting cognates.
Regards,
Good shoot. Next.
Blah blah blah
Benjamin Crump? Lol Jesse Jackson 2.0 . You really couldn’t pick a worse advocate if you are looking for credibility and “justice”. Good luck
That female Chief of Police landed in my hometown of Louisville KY. (Yep that place where Breonna Taylor got used as a human shield by her BF who told cops at first SHE was the one shooting at cops but changed his story ‘cause I was scared’) Crime is at an all time high, we’re at at least 42 homicides already this yr, we had 188 last yr.
Yuuup. Had to deal with him in Louisville KY with the Breonna Taylor case. Wonder how much of the 12 million the city gave the Taylor family went to that ambulance chasing waste of space.
Same guy who had a witness lie in the Trayvon Martin case . Made the defenses case much easier to win. Trash bag race baiter.
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