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Cannabis and the Violent Crime Surge
WSJ ^ | 6 June 2022 | Allysia Finley

Posted on 06/07/2022 11:00:12 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

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To: DUMBGRUNT
I wish the uber-libertarian types were as adamant about getting rid of welfare as they are about legalizing drugs (both of which I agree with).

That way when the pot worshippers fry their brains from persistent use (as pot smokers tend to do nowadays unlike decades ago) the rest of us won't be on the hook for their food and housing.

21 posted on 06/07/2022 11:44:36 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Oh some at FR will be unhappy with this data


22 posted on 06/07/2022 11:49:30 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: dragnet2

IF that were true every catholic mass would have arrests


23 posted on 06/07/2022 11:56:52 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

her name is gabby...

you wanna hit?... 😁


24 posted on 06/07/2022 12:04:37 PM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Kind of interesting, because pro-pot has been a big Democrat and libertarian issue for years. I am ambivalent about its medicinal effects, but its social effects aren’t good.

I remember an old drug and alcohol counselor saying, “I’m not going to argue about whether its addictive or the trapdoor to other drugs, but I will tell you that smoking it makes you not worth a damn. You won’t want to do anything bit sit on the couch and eat Cheetos.”


25 posted on 06/07/2022 12:05:56 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: dragnet2

“Really? So someone who’s never been violent would never get violent while drunk?”
I did not say that.
I said it is not the tool that is the problem, it is the person who misuses it.


26 posted on 06/07/2022 12:13:49 PM PDT by rellic
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To: gundog
Rep. Gibby Giffords....who can ever forget her?

And let us not forget her gun-grabber husband, Sen. Mork Kelly...

;>)

27 posted on 06/07/2022 12:15:33 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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To: DUMBGRUNT

They are going to turn us into a third world basket case, take away everything we hold dear, and also refuse us any anesthetic. Thanks, WSJ.


28 posted on 06/07/2022 12:20:43 PM PDT by McCarthysGhost (q)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

This is ‘Reefer Madness’-level nonsense. Has the author ever met any pot smokers? If anything, it makes them mellow and slows them down.

Now, it is psychoactive and may reduce motivation in some people. On the other hand, there are plenty of people like Elon Musk who use weed and are high achievers.

The article is just scare-mongering.


29 posted on 06/07/2022 12:31:41 PM PDT by Alvin Diogenes
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To: toddausauras
It is akin to the difference between chewing coca leaves and injecting a seven percent solution of purified cocaine. THC in concentrated form, now ingested as a hot vapor as a safer alternative to smoking the weed (which is also far more concentrated sinsemilla than it was in the 60's and 70's), is a powerful psychotropic drug.
30 posted on 06/07/2022 12:52:01 PM PDT by katana
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To: V_TWIN

yeh, same here.

gave me temporary memory loss.

couldn’t keep up with the plot line of a movie.

also made me talk alot.

bif f’n deal.

wasn’t my thing.


31 posted on 06/07/2022 1:00:07 PM PDT by Hammerhead
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To: Nifster

LOL

yeh, considering over half of American uses it from time to time.


32 posted on 06/07/2022 1:01:16 PM PDT by Hammerhead
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To: Luke21

I dislike Cheetos, regardless of what I ingest.


33 posted on 06/07/2022 1:04:19 PM PDT by Fuzz
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To: DUMBGRUNT

There is no limit to the human desire to control the behavior of others.


34 posted on 06/07/2022 1:05:41 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
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To: Luke21

LOL, “drug and alcohol counselor.”


35 posted on 06/07/2022 1:06:58 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
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To: rellic
Ya wanna a drug that makes people extremely violent? Try alcohol...Ask any cop.

These people were already violent.

Are you referring to drunks?

36 posted on 06/07/2022 1:13:15 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Fishtalk
The effects of drugs, including prescription drugs, can vary from one person to another. Don't take my word for it. Google the term "paradoxical reaction" (or its equivalent, "paradoxical effect").

More broadly, just as there are happy drunks, mean drunks, and violent drunks, there are mellow pot heads, erratic and unpredictable pot heads, and violent pot heads. It is not just a matter of moderation or excess but that the effects of a drug can vary greatly from one person to another, even from one occasion to another.

With prescription drugs and over the counter drugs, strict controls on purity and dosage and medical supervision and warnings on labels help to guard against dangerous adverse reactions. With legal recreational drugs like alcohol, and illegal ones like marijuana though it is a matter of individual choice and circumstance. And some people like getting charged up on alcohol or illegal drugs. Indeed, criminals often get high before committing crimes -- and cheap, easily available marijuana is often the drug of choice for that purpose or a key part of the mix.

Again, do not take my word for it. Go to a homeless encampment and sniff the air or interview criminals and ask what drugs are used for what purposes. Or read the studies and reports of those who have done so as professionals. There are even a number of studies that rely on hospital and morgue drawn blood samples that show the involvement of marijuana in violent crime and accidents.

The bottom line is that marijuana has a range of effects and offers dangers to self and others that, in the aggregate, mean that a rise in marijuana use leads to a rise in violent crime. If you doubt it, then ask yourself why, as a matter of common sense, if marijuana use "makes you mellow, hungry and sleepy," why are homeless encampments such dangerous places?

37 posted on 06/07/2022 1:18:59 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

Not buying it, no sale.

These people are not slaughtering young kids because of pot. That’s ridicules. The truth is, anyone who’d do what the mental case in Uvalde did, was very disturbed before they ever touched pot. No way can you blame cannabis for these horrific mass murders.

The ugly truth is we’re not caring for our own people who clearly have mental issues. Homeless mental cases are everywhere. We all know the story. What a disgrace!

A big reason for this is we’re to damn busy sending billions out in foreign aid, Ukraine, all them. Hundreds of billions! Enough to build and staff dozens of mental hospitals/facilities from coast to coast.


38 posted on 06/07/2022 1:39:09 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Rockingham
If you doubt it, then ask yourself why, as a matter of common sense, if marijuana use "makes you mellow, hungry and sleepy," why are homeless encampments such dangerous places?

See door #38.

39 posted on 06/07/2022 1:41:37 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
No stems or seeds that you don't need,
Acapulco Gold is...Badass Weed.

Cheech and Chong

40 posted on 06/07/2022 1:52:06 PM PDT by NavyShoe
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