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To: 70times7
The vote was not 5 to 4. Although Roberts issued some weasel words to try and avoid any heat, he was the 6th vote in the 6 to 3 split.

No, the vote was indeed 5 to 4 to overturn Roe. It was 6-3 to uphold the Mississippi laws. That position was clearly where Roberts was leaning based on the oral arguments - hardly a conspiracy or a surprise that is where he landed in the end. Hardly a conspiracy or a surprise Justices try to win over colleagues to their own side (the same has been done with Roberts - specifically on the ACA per reports), the "rumors" about Epstein have zero merit (John Roberts is not exactly an uncommon name).

19 posted on 06/28/2022 6:10:12 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat
Ok, I will need your help with this one. I have looked through multiple news stories but it is unclear. Most news stories are directly stating that Roe was overturned in a 6-3 vote. I found one the mentions a 5-4 in relation to a "dissent" from Roberts, but the specifics are ambiguous.

What case was brought before the SCOTUS that involved a direct vote on Roe vs Wade separate from the Mississippi case? Yes, Roberts issued a statement, saying he would not have voted to overturn Roe, but that seems to be a distinction with no difference, and he made it for political reasons. My understanding is that the SCOTUS cannot issue rulings on disputes that are not brought before them. So how was there a separate vote on Roe v Wade apart from Dobbs v. Jackson? If so, what was the name of the other case?

If there is no other case either the SCOTUS voted twice or Roberts is playing word games in his "dissent".

28 posted on 06/28/2022 6:44:17 AM PDT by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Yet someone leaked the opinion. That’s a fact, not theory. It’s reasonable to speculate why and who.


37 posted on 06/28/2022 7:28:41 AM PDT by Stravinsky
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