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Child abuse victim, 10, who was six weeks pregnant is forced to travel from Ohio to Indiana for an abortion after home state outlaws it under Roe v Wade ruling
Daily Mail UK ^ | July 1, 2022 | Vanessa Serna

Posted on 07/01/2022 6:25:39 PM PDT by Morgana

A 10-year-old child abuse victim was forced to seek an abortion in Indiana after her home state of Ohio barred abortion following the Supreme Court decision to overturn of Roe v. Wade.

A child abuse doctor in Ohio sought the help of Dr. Caitlin Bernard, an Indianapolis obstetrician-gynecologist, on Monday to help the girl get an abortion after the state banned the procedure after six weeks - hours after the 6-3 Supreme Court vote, The Columbus Dispatch reported.

The child was six weeks and three days pregnant - therefore, ineligible by just three days to receive the procedure in her home state.

Abortion advocates in the state attempted to halt Ohio's six-week abortion ban, but the effort was denied by a judge on Friday.

As of Friday, Indiana's only abortion restriction is a law requiring clinics to ask women if their abortion is coerced - which is illegal, Fox 59 reported.

The law went into effect on July 1 and more restrictions might pass in the state following The Indiana General Assembly hearing on July 25.

'It's hard to imagine that in just a few short weeks we will have no ability to provide that care,' Bernard told The Columbus Dispatch.

Until then, abortion providers in Indiana say they have noticed the impact of the overturn of Roe, claiming they have seen an increase of patients coming from out of state to receive the procedure, according to The Columbus Dispatch.

The Women's Med, an Indiana abortion clinic that also has a center in Ohio, has received patients in need of an operation from their Ohio clinic.

Dr. Katie McHugh, an OBGYN in Indiana, has witnessed 'an insane amount of requests' from women in Ohio and Kentucky seeking an abortion.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: stanne

Well you know now that they can’t hide their crimes...


61 posted on 07/01/2022 7:35:06 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor. )
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To: Wuli
”No. I am not saying that. I am only saying I understand the extreme difficulty of the female in that position. It is still abortion, but like capital punishment in criminal offenses, it is an exception for “murder” we might make.”

You have not thought this out very well. You need to acknowledge that abortion is a shorthand euphemism for the deliberate killing of an innocent human being before it is born. Murder (the unjust premeditated killing of one human being by another) does not belong in quotes here because that is what abortion is, but is not what capital punishment is. And capital punishment differs completely from abortion in that the condemned is not a defenseless, innocent human baby. I suggest you look this issue straight in the face and see it for what it is. Only then can you have a clear grasp of the issue.

62 posted on 07/01/2022 7:37:13 PM PDT by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversaet! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia! )
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To: Drew68
Oh I'm sure it has.

Statistically, even something very unlikely, if given enough opportunities, will happen.

But using that rare exception to make an argument is another issues.

People have also been struck by meteorites.

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/meteorite-strikes-alabama-woman

People choke to death on hot dogs, using a nasal flush, getting crushed by a vending machine, by having stacks of coin boxes in their money truck fall on them, from a wedgie, water injection from a fall while water skiing, getting hit in the balls by a tennis ball, riding a Segway off a cliff, by electrocution from a live microphone (on stage in front of an audience)...

People have died from flying lawnmowers at baseball half time shows.

https://www.nytimes.com/1979/12/15/archives/fan-hurt-by-model-plane-at-halftime-at-shea-dies-disregard-charged.html

Yes. Even something that only has a .0000001% chance of happening, might happen when you have 6 - 7 billion folks all trying to compete for that prize every day! Hahaha

***The problem here is that they are using a rare exception to make some point which does not really exist.

63 posted on 07/01/2022 7:37:46 PM PDT by Red6
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To: SPDSHDW
Yeah. Indiana is quisling Pence's territory.

64 posted on 07/01/2022 7:40:52 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: fidelis

“You have not thought this out very well. You need to acknowledge that abortion is a shorthand euphemism for the deliberate killing of an innocent human being before it is born. “

I am not disagreeing about what morally is.

I am only suggesting I might be willing to make those very strict exceptions, for those cases only, and only because the conception was not brought on by the voluntary choice of the female. I understand HER plight, whether or not you agree.


65 posted on 07/01/2022 7:45:30 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Red6
Yes. Even something that only has a .0000001% chance of happening, might happen when you have 6 - 7 billion folks all trying to compete for that prize every day!

I'm not saying it didn't happen. It could've happened.

My issue is, now we're going to be subjected to all of these personal anecdotes from doctors about all of these 10-year old rape victims that need abortions.

The same personal anecdotes we've been subjected to about unvaccinated Covid victims.

Are they true? Could be, I suppose, but after having smoke blown up my ass for the past two years, I'm going to take all of these anecdotal stories with a grain of salt and a healthy dose of skepticism because, just like with Covid, they have an agenda to push.

66 posted on 07/01/2022 7:55:35 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: Wuli
”I understand HER plight, whether or not you agree.”

I understand HER plight too— but I also understand the plight of the innocent unborn baby whom you seem to be downplaying. Just because we can hope that he or she will wind up in heaven, doesn’t justify subjecting an unborn child to an undeserved, painful, and barbaric death. Just about all murders of innocents could be committed using this same rationale.

67 posted on 07/01/2022 7:58:24 PM PDT by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversaet! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia! )
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To: entropy12

Who says that a 10 year old needs to raise the child?

There are people that would adopt this kid.

There are people so desperate to have a kid, they would pay for all the medical costs and give her a gracious amount (for when she turns 18 it’s waiting for her) after they get the baby.

What you are doing is limiting the options/choices when in reality there are several/numerous.

It is a bad situation for sure.

But this 10 year old will still remember how she got pregnant (most likely) and that she had an abortion... You’re not going to “Format Disk/Delete all” and make it all good with an abortion (it’s not magical). That’s another thing to consider.

What is for sure though is that policies/regulations and laws need to be formulated for what is realistic, not some crazy outlying situation that constitutes a 1 in 100,000 situation for abortions. We do this everywhere else and we do not even think twice about it. Are you worried about being swallowed by an escalator?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coqQHNnyHAw

And if I say I feel sorry for her, but am absolutely not concerned nor do I think we need to make any laws or regulations to deal with this issue, does that make me a heartless evil person?

This article using a 10 year old is an emotional appeal. It’s a little better than: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1o3NCPKZ4U


68 posted on 07/01/2022 8:06:41 PM PDT by Red6
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To: Red6

Do you have a 10 year old daughter?


69 posted on 07/01/2022 8:07:53 PM PDT by entropy12 (Trump/DeSantis & MAGA! are the only way to keep USA viable.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I raised 2 daughters. Both were 10 year old at one time.
And NO, I would not them to go through 9 months pregnancy.
Their bodies are no where ready for it. But then you are not educated doctor, so you know very little.


70 posted on 07/01/2022 8:09:50 PM PDT by entropy12 (Trump/DeSantis & MAGA! are the only way to keep USA viable.)
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To: Morgana

I wish. It would be good to hang child rapists in public again.


71 posted on 07/01/2022 8:12:34 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Bus No. 2525)
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To: entropy12
I did.

She's 21 now. And no, she wouldn't have an abortion now nor would I have pushed for it back then even if it were rape.

Truth rests in consistency.

If that is a life (regardless of where the line is drawn), then it's also life once past that line even if conceived from a rape and regardless of the age.

Again, try making an argument that doesn't use “feelings and emotions.”

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Appeal-to-Emotion

72 posted on 07/01/2022 8:18:00 PM PDT by Red6
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To: AZJeep

Did someone say that every day there are hundreds of schools atracked?


73 posted on 07/01/2022 8:19:08 PM PDT by Reynoldo (BurnLootMurder)
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To: Morgana

Typical, get the most extreme and exceptional case and use it as a club. Sounds like the Ohio law needs a tweak and whoever raped this girl needs to be shoved into a wood chipper.


74 posted on 07/01/2022 8:19:42 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: entropy12

I don’t base my arguments and personal worldview on emotions and feelings, like you do.

So we will have to remain at different positions.


75 posted on 07/01/2022 8:27:28 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Morgana

Mary MacGregor:
Robert, there is more. I am with child... and I do not know who the father is.

Robert Roy MacGregor:
Ach, Mary...

Mary MacGregor:
I could not kill it, husband.

Robert Roy MacGregor:
It’s not the child that needs killing.


76 posted on 07/01/2022 8:29:50 PM PDT by 728b (Never cry over something that can not cry over you.)
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To: fidelis

“Just about all murders of innocents could be committed using this same rationale.”

No, all murders of innocents do not have the context of the rape and incest against the innocent female.

It is not an argumnent for an open-ended gneral case, or a slipprry slope to it, but just two very specific special exceptions to the general case.


77 posted on 07/01/2022 8:32:28 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Morgana

Exactly!


78 posted on 07/01/2022 8:36:44 PM PDT by Guenevere (“If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?”)
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To: Drew68

I’m having difficulty believing this story, too.


79 posted on 07/01/2022 8:36:49 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Morgana

Oh good god, I never said I wondered if she could be raped.

It never ends, people thinking they are so positive they are right about their assumptions of what someone else is meaning.

I questioned the age.


80 posted on 07/01/2022 8:50:47 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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