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Homeless, suicidal, down to last $1,000: Celsius investors beg bankruptcy judge for help (crypto coin)
CNBC ^ | 8-2-22 | MacKenzie Sigalos

Posted on 08/02/2022 2:39:33 PM PDT by dynachrome

Celsius Network, once a titan of the crypto lending world, is in bankruptcy proceedings and facing down claims that it was running a Ponzi scheme by paying early depositors with the money it got from new users. Some of the 1.7 million customers ensnared by the alleged fraud are now directly pleading with the Southern District of New York to help them get their money back.

Christian Ostheimer, a 37 year-old living in Connecticut, wrote in a letter included in court exhibits that he trusted Celsius with his retirement savings and has lost more than $30,000, which has brought him into “unsurmountable tax complications.”

“It is in your hands, honorable judge to make this a different case were not the lawyers, the attorneys, the big corporations and managers get paid out first but the little man, the mom and pop, the college grad, the granny and grandpa — all those many small unsecured creditors — so that they are not like usual at the end of the chain where they lose everything,” writes Ostheimer.

The question of who gets repaid first — should that day ever come — looms heavy over the bankruptcy proceedings.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Computers/Internet; Society
KEYWORDS: bankrupt; celsius; crypto; ponzi
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Eggs. One basket. Don't
1 posted on 08/02/2022 2:39:33 PM PDT by dynachrome
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To: dynachrome

We don’t bailout big Vegas losers.


2 posted on 08/02/2022 2:41:54 PM PDT by Huskrrrr (Alinsky, you magnificent Bastard, I read your book!)
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To: dynachrome

37 year old.

Retirement savings?!

Caveat Emptor.


3 posted on 08/02/2022 2:43:11 PM PDT by Skywise
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To: Skywise

True that. I wish I could have back the retirement savings my ex drained from me in my 30’s with an ugly divorce. LOL


4 posted on 08/02/2022 2:44:40 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: dynachrome
I thought the "crypto" in cryptocurrency meant that your holdings were secret. Can he prove that he owned $30,000 in crypto?

If not, what's to prevent someone claiming that he owned $300,000? Or $3 million?

5 posted on 08/02/2022 2:45:13 PM PDT by Angelino97
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To: dynachrome

If at 37, a $30K hit is ‘insurmountable’, then you are probably a loser. 30K is like buying a cheap car - and while it would suck to lose 30K, it should be ‘surmountable’ for a hard working person.


6 posted on 08/02/2022 2:45:21 PM PDT by qwerty1234
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To: dynachrome

So these people did not buy crypto they had control over?

They make it sound like they invested in the business, proper.

Interesting.


7 posted on 08/02/2022 2:47:31 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: dynachrome

A fool and his money are soon parted.


8 posted on 08/02/2022 2:47:56 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Seruzawa

If indeed this thing was run as a Ponzi Scheme, then some executions should be in order.


9 posted on 08/02/2022 2:48:40 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dynachrome
People are always griping about the dollar being printed fiat money with nothing to back it up. Then they go out and drop everything on a virtual coin that is nothing more that a series of 1's and 0's in cyberspace.

Go figure.

10 posted on 08/02/2022 2:50:05 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: dynachrome

Stupid SHOULD hurt. That way you get less of it. Plus, how does LOSING money create ‘unsurmountable’ [eyeroll] tax complications?


11 posted on 08/02/2022 2:51:07 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: dynachrome

Crypto is NOT an investment strategy... it’s currency


12 posted on 08/02/2022 2:52:35 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: dynachrome

What to Jim Cramer talk about this company a year ago?
https://decrypt.co/102828/jim-cramer-turns-bearish-on-crypto-is-that-bullish?amp=1


13 posted on 08/02/2022 2:58:53 PM PDT by keving (We the government )
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To: dynachrome

At least he is only 37, and has time to recover. We were in our 50s during the 90s tech crash.


14 posted on 08/02/2022 2:59:45 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Liz Cheney, Trump’s personal Javert..."--Michael Anton)
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To: keving

Great Read! https://mobile.twitter.com/cramertracker/


15 posted on 08/02/2022 3:01:42 PM PDT by keving (We the government )
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To: dynachrome

quote “his retirement savings and has lost more than $30,000, which has brought him into “unsurmountable tax complications.”

HUH?

how can $30,000 be someones retirement? and how can losing that little bring insurmountable tax issues?


16 posted on 08/02/2022 3:03:04 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: dynachrome

The Crypto Keeper

17 posted on 08/02/2022 3:09:45 PM PDT by Ken H (Trump /DeSantis)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Right. He probably doesn’t understand taxes and hasn’t asked a professional. I haven’t read the article, just came here for the anti crypto comments.

If he has traded crypto in an out all year, he could gotten a statement that says he owes all this tax, without taking into consideration the losses incurred, during all those trades.

I’m not educated in the tax field, but he may show profits of $700,000 and losses of $670,000 or something.

No need to flame my ignorance on the subject, I just remember a buddy’s son getting a scary letter from the IRS about owing $100,000’s, when in reality he didn’t owe anything because he lost money trading.

I’m not a financial advisor and this is not financial advice.

In fact, I am what you could call, a retarded crayon eating ape


18 posted on 08/02/2022 3:11:16 PM PDT by BookaT (Hedgies are focked!)
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To: BookaT

I suspect you are right.


19 posted on 08/02/2022 3:11:49 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: Chode
Crypto is NOT an investment strategy... it’s currency

So is cash, but lots of people park their assets in cash.

And, with the crazy crypto values roller coaster, I think an awfully lot of folks thought of it as an investment.

20 posted on 08/02/2022 3:16:44 PM PDT by gloryblaze
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