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mewzilla wrote: “In ‘77 the Swine Flu vax was pulled after causing fewer than three dozen reported deaths and 500 reported injuries. Why is human life worth so much less now?”

The swine flu vaccination program was stopped because there was no swine flu epidemic.


15 posted on 09/09/2022 4:53:10 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

Wrong as usual.

https://www.nytimes.com/1976/10/13/archives/swine-flu-prograrm-is-halted-in-9-states-as-3-die-after-shots.html


27 posted on 09/09/2022 5:23:12 AM PDT by roving ( Pronouns- libs/suk)
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To: DugwayDuke

mewzilla wrote: “In ‘77 the Swine Flu vax was pulled after causing fewer than three dozen reported deaths and 500 reported injuries. Why is human life worth so much less now?”

Duke wrote: “The swine flu vaccination program was stopped because there was no swine flu epidemic.”

I was wondering when you would show up to show us all how wrong we are.

I clearly remember what happened then and they stopped the swine flu vax because of the side effects and deaths. Just for fun, I did a quick DuckDuckGo search and what do I see? You are wrong.

“By 15 December, cases of Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS) affecting vaccinated patients were reported in 10 states, including Minnesota, Maryland, and Alabama.[14] Three more cases of Guillain-Barré were reported in early December, and the investigation into cases of it spread to eleven states. On December 16, a one-month suspension of the vaccination program was announced by Sencer. William Foege of the CDC estimated that the incidence of GBS was four times higher in vaccinated people than in those not receiving the swine flu vaccine. Ford told reporters that he agreed with the suspension, but he defended the decision to create the immunization program. Joseph A. Califano, Jr., was sworn in as Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare on January 20, 1977. On February 4, Sencer was informed that he would be replaced as the head of the CDC. The immunization program was not reinstated.”

Your comment is a complete canard. Whether or not there was a swine flu epidemic is immaterial. There was a vaccination campaign started, there were a high incidence of side effects and some deaths and it was stopped because of that.


28 posted on 09/09/2022 5:25:04 AM PDT by gracefullyparanoid
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To: DugwayDuke

you are entirely wrong about that


30 posted on 09/09/2022 5:37:07 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: DugwayDuke; Jane Long; ransomnote; SecAmndmt; Jan_Sobieski; bagster; Roman_War_Criminal; ...

Answer one question……

You are an anonymous poster on an internet forum with no verifiable credentials, no verifiable experience, no proof of anything and yet you expect us to take you at your word just on your say so when the overwhelming amount of evidence demonstrates you are wrong.

WHY should we believe you?


37 posted on 09/09/2022 5:55:02 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: DugwayDuke

That’s not the way I remember it.


40 posted on 09/09/2022 6:06:56 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DugwayDuke; metmom

No, dumbass.

The ‘76 program was BEGUN because there was no epidemic: They were manufacturing the ‘crisis’ (enter deja vu).

The program was CEASED for all the right reasons which would correspond to this so-called epidemic, but rather than being honest and transparent about the effects the public is TODAY guinea pigs at the whim of the bureaucrats and corporatists.

How much do you get paid to peddle your BS?


43 posted on 09/09/2022 6:31:53 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: DugwayDuke

https://www.nytimes.com/1976/10/13/archives/swine-flu-prograrm-is-halted-in-9-states-as-3-die-after-shots.html

...they also said that the highly unusual circumstances of three fatalities among the patients of one clinic in such a short time required investigation.


55 posted on 09/09/2022 8:30:10 AM PDT by citizen (Thieves of private property pass their lives in chains; thieves of public prop. in riches and luxury)
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To: DugwayDuke; mewzilla
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled CDC Admits Post-Vaccine Myocarditis Concerns That Were Labeled Covid Misinformation Are Legit, DugwayDuke wrote:

mewzilla wrote: “In ‘77 the Swine Flu vax was pulled after causing fewer than three dozen reported deaths and 500 reported injuries. Why is human life worth so much less now?”

The swine flu vaccination program was stopped because there was no swine flu epidemic.

Here's what the CDC  says  is the primary reason the Swine Flu vax was pulled:

"Had H1N1 influenza been transmitted at that time, the small apparent risk of GBS from immunization would have been eclipsed by the obvious immediate benefit of vaccine-induced protection against swine flu. However, in December 1976, with >40 million persons immunized and no evidence of H1N1 transmission, federal health officials decided that the possibility of an association of GBS with the vaccine, however small, necessitated stopping immunization, at least until the issue could be explored. A moratorium on the use of the influenza vaccines was announced on December 16; it effectively ended NIIP of 1976. Four days later the New York Times published an op-ed article that began by asserting, "Misunderstandings and misconceptions... have marked Government ... during the last eight years," attributing NIIP and its consequences to "political expediency" and "the self interest of government health bureaucracy" (7). These simple and sinister innuendos had traction, as did 2 epithets used in the article to describe the program, "debacle" in the text and "Swine Flu Fiasco" in the title."

The CDC still blames some of its own mistakes on optics and human behavior - claiming the MSM over reported and the public over-reacted.

However, in defending its failures in 2006, the CDC said that overreaction is good when the government does it:

Decision-making Risks

When lives are at stake, it is better to err on the side of overreaction than underreaction. Because of the unpredictability of influenza, responsible public health leaders must be willing to take risks on behalf of the public. This requires personal courage and a reasonable level of understanding by the politicians to whom these public health leaders are accountable. All policy decisions entail risks and benefits: risks or benefits to the decision maker; risks or benefits to those affected by the decision. In 1976, the federal government wisely opted to put protection of the public first.

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/12/1/05-1007_article

I'm guessing the CDC is referring to risks to their own careers in this portion of the quote, "Because of the unpredictability of influenza, responsible public health leaders must be willing to take risks on behalf of the public."
For anyone wishing to see further exposure of the CDC's mishandling of the Covid 'vaccine' program, the following content from the CDC re its 1976 mishandling of the Swine Flu 'vaccine' makes for an infuriating read to those quite familiar with the current complaints about the CDC. In it, you can see the CDC was running the same propaganda & experiment-on-the-public game in 1976, and when exposed blamed the same people and claimed to have learned it's lessons, only to repeat some critical ones again with Covid, almost as if...it was intentional, or something.
We know the CDC changes its online content when the public points to it so I've posted the CDC's content to a thread in order to preserve it in its original form.
Reflections on the 1976 Swine Flu Vaccination Program
cdc.gov ^ | January 2006 | CDC

Posted on 9/9/2022, 2:52:19 PM by ransomnote

Lastly, the CDC includes as a reference, a New York Times article titled, "Flu to the starboard! Man the harpoons! Fill with vaccine! Get the captain! Hurry! "New York Times. 1976 Feb 13. p. 32, col. 4."
It never was the flu that the New York Times article were hunting with harpoons full of poorly tested 'vaccines'.
PS: For anyone curious, Anthony Fauci joined the CDC in 1968.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Fauci

73 posted on 09/09/2022 12:54:50 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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