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The Science of Why Electric Vehicle Batteries Are So Dangerous
Breitbart ^ | 29Sept | Nolan

Posted on 09/30/2022 12:46:26 AM PDT by qaz123

In a recent op-ed, the Washington Post outlines how Tesla’s battery issues and fires may not just be due to poor design and manufacturing but a side effect of electric vehicles relying on lithium-ion batteries.

The Washington Post reports in an op-ed titled “Tesla’s Big Batteries Aren’t the Fire Problem. Lithium Is,” that Americans should be questionubg whether lithium-ion powerpacks should be used for applications such as electric vehicles. The piece argues that the science of lithium-ion batteries make them inherently dangerous.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: automotive; battery; electric; ev; fire; gasolineneverburns; ohnoz; toxic
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Electric cars are the bestest in the world. They are the bestest in everything.

The bestest electric cars are going to save the world.

Electric cars can have as much horsepower and torque as any ICE car in the world(no one can afford them, though) and they are the best.

EV worshippers unite.

On a more serious note, I would imagine that with the recent surge in liberal, inner city hipsters & liberal suburbanites buying more and more of them...most likely because of the cheaper models and the tax incentives that go with them...that the mass production is causing QC/QA issues, as with anything mass produced. Only these things are a tad more dangerous when they malfunction than other consumer goods.

1 posted on 09/30/2022 12:46:26 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: qaz123

Thrill seekers riding on a 4-wheel bomb....


2 posted on 09/30/2022 1:07:43 AM PDT by cranked
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If you had a EV and an ICE vehicle which would you have used to evacuate away from hurricane Ian this week?

Says alot when the chips are on the line whats your go to.


3 posted on 09/30/2022 1:47:23 AM PDT by reviled downesdad (Some of the lost will never believe the Truth.)
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To: cranked

Molotov cocktails are made with gasoline. Not lithium ion batteries.

Gasoline cars blow up at 10x the rate of Tesla vehicles.

Gasoline cars, when used correctly, are constant explosions of flammable liquid. Relatively easy for controlled to become uncontrolled.


4 posted on 09/30/2022 2:28:41 AM PDT by Reaganez
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To: qaz123

“The piece argues that the science of lithium-ion batteries make them inherently dangerous.”
All the article did was repeatedly say lithium batteries are dangerous. It did not give any explanation.


5 posted on 09/30/2022 2:52:25 AM PDT by jimfr
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To: reviled downesdad; All

It’d be interesting to drive a Tesla in two feet of water. Bzzzzttt.


6 posted on 09/30/2022 2:53:07 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: Reaganez
Gasoline cars blow up at 10x the rate of Tesla vehicles.

What's comparative rate of spontaneous combustion (i.e., no collision or traffic accident) fires or blow ups occurring in gasoline cars vs. Tesla vehicles?

7 posted on 09/30/2022 2:58:06 AM PDT by Ahithophel (Communication is an art form susceptible to sudden technical failure)
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To: Reaganez

Can you do FR a favor? Go down to your local firehouse and ask the firefighters how many times they have seen a car with an ICE explode. Even the gas tanks don’t explode. They pop, drain and form a flaming puddle.

Car explosions are for the movies.


8 posted on 09/30/2022 3:25:43 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Cobra64

I wouldn’t drive my crv I. 2 feet of wateret alone my model 3....my f350 dually diesel maybe😀


9 posted on 09/30/2022 3:41:22 AM PDT by fremont_steve
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To: qaz123

as President Trump said, “climate change” is a hoax to benefit China. Australia’s EV numbers are still tiny, but plans are afoot to force people to buy them, even tho Australia has just about the lowest population density, and would require uneconomical amounts of charging infrastructure:

27 Sept: Daily Mail: China’s very clever plot to make Australia dependent on it for electric cars like it is for virtually everything else - and it’s already happening as Labor pushes its green agenda
Chinese-made cars in August had an 82.6 per cent electric vehicle market share
They comprised 3,498 of the 4,235 EVs sold last month as Greens backed Labor
Teslas manufactured in Shanghai were by far the most popular fully-electric cars
BMW selling for $114,900, Volvos and car from offshoot Polestar also from China
By STEPHEN JOHNSON
ANZ economists Madeline Dunk, Kyle Uerata and David Plank have released a report showing EVs are a key growth sector as the Australian government vows to have charging stations at average intervals of 150km...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11249021/Chinas-secret-plot-make-Australia-dependent-electric-cars-else.html

28 Sept: Yahoo: China’s Nio joins the race for lithium, buys 12% of Australia’s Greenwing Resources
by Rita Liao
Nio, an eight-year-old premium EV maker, has agreed to pay $12 million for a 12.16% stake in Greenwing Resources, an Australian lithium mining company, Greenwing said in a filing with the Australian Stock Exchange.

As part of the deal, Nio obtains the right to one nominee on Greenwing’s board and a call option to acquire between 20% and 40% of the issued capital of Andes Litio SA. Bought by Greenwing last year, Andes Litio holds options rights over the San Jorge Lithium Project located in the prolific Lithium Triangle, which spans Argentina, Chile, and Bolivia and contains most of the world’s lithium resources...

BYD, the Warren Buffett–backed Chinese manufacturer that is closing in on Tesla by producing a mix of hybrid and electric vehicles, has also been getting its hand on the global lithium supply. In January, the firm said that it won a contract from Chile’s mining ministry to produce 80,000 metric tons of lithium over 20 years with an offer of $61 million, but the auction was subsequently suspended by a local court under political pressure.

Related link: China roundup: Tesla supplier CATL to buy Canada’s Millennial Lithium
https://au.lifestyle.yahoo.com/chinas-nio-joins-race-lithium-204748675.html


10 posted on 09/30/2022 3:56:11 AM PDT by MAGAthon
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We recently had a convention in South Carolina. We had hurricane Ian at our back door. Landfall had yet to be determined but definitely west coast of Florida . The two people from Florida who had electric cars were the only ones from all of Florida attendees to cancel.


11 posted on 09/30/2022 4:00:09 AM PDT by lilypad
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To: qaz123

Could be true, could be bull, but if it’s from the Washington Compost, who would believe it?


12 posted on 09/30/2022 4:41:34 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: qaz123

I wonder if lithium batteries are more inherently dangerous than gasoline.


13 posted on 09/30/2022 4:42:28 AM PDT by odawg
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To: Cobra64

“It’d be interesting to drive a Tesla in two feet of water. Bzzzzttt.”

Guess the flooding in Florida and the submerged vehicles shows us that flooding an EV battery doesn’t make them ignite. Certainly a few of the submerged vehicles were EVs — well, maybe not.


14 posted on 09/30/2022 5:03:17 AM PDT by cymbeline
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Anyone driving electric cars in the saltwater flooded areas of Florida....

Be interesting to see what the saltwater does to electric cars and electric motors....


15 posted on 09/30/2022 5:14:11 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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Lithium ion batteries are full of angry pixes, really angry pixies. They want to bite and /or burn anyonee who let's them out by touching their home or highways. The cell itself and/or any electrical conductor attached in anyway to their home..

there... Now you know why lithium batteries and anything that uses them are dangerous. Lots of angry pixies. Lots and lots.

p.s. regular batteries also have angry pixies,but the lithium ones have killer pixies that can fly out faster than other type batteries.

16 posted on 09/30/2022 5:16:06 AM PDT by Ikeon (My fellow americans would put you in shackles if it meant they could not be bothered for one day. )
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To: cranked

How to cook a Leftist? Buy them an electric car


17 posted on 09/30/2022 5:20:49 AM PDT by oldasrocks
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To: qaz123

I was a firefighter for 10 years. Went to lots and lots of vehicle fires. Standard practice was to pull an inch and a half. Never had one where we couldn’t put it out with the water we carried on the pumper, usually 500 gallons.

I’ve seen lots of videos of EV fires and it appears that you can’t put them out regardless of how much water you put on them. And then there are the toxic fumes. I suspect SOP will be to let them burn out and protect exposures. It’s going to be a f’n mess.


18 posted on 09/30/2022 5:23:52 AM PDT by technically right
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To: reviled downesdad

A true liberal would not move from New York State or California until U-Haul offers an EV moving van. So hopefully only conservatives or more moderate libs will be moving out.


19 posted on 09/30/2022 5:24:49 AM PDT by Bernard (“the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God." JFK 1-20-61)
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I guaran-damn-tee that most of the folks living in these Bronx and Brooklyn neighborhoods voted for her. Good luck running extension cords from your homes to charge your Effeminate Vehicles.


20 posted on 09/30/2022 5:25:54 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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