Posted on 10/06/2022 8:06:06 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
“Isn’t this the same as how Russians fought WWI and WWII?”
Quite similar to how they fought WWI. Russia was pretty much out of the war before the US got involved in Europe in June, 1917. The Bolsheviks — who were very much opposed to the war — overthrew the Tsar in March, 1917, and immediately began to seek terms with the Central Powers (mainly, Germany).
In WWII, The Soviets were driven back between June, 1941 and October, 1942. Then, beginning in November, 1942 the tide began to change and the Germans were put on the defensive.
There are three major reasons why Russia is struggling against Ukraine.
First, Russia’s conventional forces are pretty shoddy. Second, Russia sucks at logistics. Third — and perhaps most important — The Russian people are not invested in the war against Ukraine. Russians can fight VERY well when Mother Russia is invaded, and Russians are fighting on their own home turf, and it is THEIR families who are at risk. Absent that, they have historically proved to be rather mediocre.
“If Ukaine wishes to oust Russia from Kherson it will have to mass forces necessary to conduct the block to block fighting that Russia did when it captured Mariupol.”
I’d just surround them and wait for them to starve. It’d only take a week or so. Once the conscripts have slaughtered the officers who are treating them this way they’ll gladly surrender.
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my thoughts are that there are no good people involved...wars are never fought for the reasons the general public is motivated to fight the war. the reasons always come down to who it is being profitable for. this person or group has the political pull to keep the fight going. I really don’t care which side is good and witch side is bad. the reasons motivating the conflict go back to at least the breakup of the Sovit union and did not just start with putin and the soviet invasion.
You are incorrect. Ukraine has been gaining ground by double flanking Russian positions and shutting down Russian logistical support. With winter coming on Russia will have a hard time holding ground.
The Ukes haven’t had to fight those kinds of street battles for the most part. They just cut supply lines and keep moving.
“Tell your Putin to leave Ukraine.”
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Moronic statement.
“They just cut supply lines and keep moving.”
Take a page right out of Patton’s playbook. Surround and then bypass. Leave the defenders to starve and freeze. In about a week they’ll turn on their officers and surrender en masse.
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Those aren’t Russians! They’re neocon globo fluffers! /s
“Tell your Putin to leave Ukraine.”
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You tell your John Sherman, Department of Defense
Chief Information Officer to back off propagandizing FreeRepublic.
For people other than the propogandists to reference:
Propagandists in our DoD and you know they’re operating at many sites, not just Facebook and Twitter, like here as you’ll notice when you view their profiles “in forum.”
Excerpt:
“The takedowns in recent years by Twitter and Facebook of more than 150 bogus personas and media sites created in the United States was disclosed last month by internet researchers Graphika and the Stanford Internet Observatory. While the researchers did not attribute the sham accounts to the U.S. military, two officials familiar with the matter said that U.S. Central Command is among those whose activities are facing scrutiny. Like others interviewed for this report, they spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive military operations.“
And another:
“”One diplomat put it this way: “Generally speaking, we shouldn’t be employing the same kind of tactics that our adversaries are using because the bottom line is we have the moral high ground. We are a society that is built on a certain set of values. We promote those values around the world and when we use tactics like those, it just undermines our argument about who we are.””
Pentagon opens sweeping review of clandestine psychological operations
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/09/19/pentagon-psychological-operations-facebook-twitter/
They lost in WWI and we helped the tyrant running the country in WWII.
Loooong retreats. Characterized both.
Regardless, those poor saps humping rifles in the cold are better men than a pack of keyboard wielding REMFs.
You believe that crap?
Its a fake anyway.
The Bezos Amazon Post?
The pro-Russians often point this out, when Ukraine makes large gains on the battlefield, that the Russians weren’t defeated, they just withdrew. Exactly, that’s how it works.
For those paying attention, this war has been a real education as this has been a logistics war, maybe all wars are. They fight crossroads to crossroads trying to assure their own supply lines and cut their opponent’s supply lines. The Ukes in particular, since they lack the sheer volume of artillery, have focused on supply depots. A lot of what we see reflects what each army has to work with. The Russians have, or had, large numbers of old fashioned cannons and almost infinite ammunition for them, use large-scale cannon barrages to turn enemy targets to dust. The Ukrainians lack those numbers, but have a few precision weapons which they use for effect going after supplies. It’s interesting.
“this war has been a real education as this has been a logistics war, maybe all wars are.”
They all are. “Amateurs think about tactics. Professionals think about logistics.”
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