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‘The Rings of Power’ Showrunners Break Silence on Backlash, Sauron and Season 2
The Hollywood Reporter ^ | 10/6 | JAMES HIBBERD

Posted on 10/08/2022 8:26:37 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: nickcarraway
It's not as bad as the Youtube reviews have said, although I have found some of them very funny.

It needed better editing for certain and better writing. Most of the actors are very good. It's very uneven, the woke multi-culti elements in the first episodes are intrusive. I expect most such series to start off slow as characters are introduced, but this is really turgid at times. Some scenes however are very very good. Some are cliched to the point that when a character does something, you know he's going to be toast.

The writers do quietly poke a little fun at the woke-stuff, as when Galadriel uses "orcs" in front of the bad elf who is father of the orcs and he says, "We prefer Uruk." I did LOL at that.

Most important to me is that they do keep a core part of Tolkien that absent from most comic book or action movies: the fight against evil is not easy and involves almost unbearable loss, including the risk of letting evil become your own motivation in seeking revenge. A good lesson from a man who survived the Somme.

21 posted on 10/08/2022 10:10:22 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

The elves are just... plain. They’re supposed to be ethereal characters but they’re just humans with glued on pointy ears.

Humans are dirty, ugly and incompetent “deplorables” with no redeeming qualities except the medicine woman who is immaculately clean and knows whatever needed.

The “Mary Sure” here are as shallow as the men are stupid.

I’m rooting for the orcs and sauron.


22 posted on 10/08/2022 10:11:39 PM PDT by RedMonqey
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To: nickcarraway

How long before claims that Tolkien was a racist and a sexist and his works must be purified by being reimagined by our Woke betters?


23 posted on 10/08/2022 10:30:49 PM PDT by Kartographer (“We Mutually Pledge To Each Other Our Lives, Our Fortunes And Our Sacred Honor”)
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To: wgmalabama

Game of Thrones prequel similar race silliness


24 posted on 10/08/2022 10:35:02 PM PDT by wardaddy (Sound and Fury Republic now home to more than a few globalists who really love the mainstream media )
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To: nickcarraway
I will admit to being a Tolkien pedant for at least 50 years, but this thing is simply appalling. The exact terms of the arrangement with the Tolkien estate are still confidential, but one insistence (I've read) was that they not step on the Third Age narrative, and that's exactly what they're doing. Galadriel has been transformed into an insufferable Lara Croft swashbuckler with all of the personal appeal of a rabid hyena - she literally threatened genocide at one point - the Harfoots, presumed ancestors of the Hobbits, are psychotic vagabonds, the plot is non-canonical within one of the most well-developed canons in modern literature, anachronisms abound, the plot pacing is glacial, the dialogue thoroughly stilted and cringe-worthy, the action scenes blatantly cobbled from Jackson's films, and the overall work reeks of inchoate ineptitude. They fired the one Tolkien scholar on the staff and zoomed off into Marvel-comic-land.

Naturally they're complaining that their critics are racist for their attempts to make a mythical past reflect a politically-correct present, but in fact they've torn out Tolkien's deep messages on interracial comity and replaced them with superficial skin-color tokenism. That is, sadly, the very least of their problems. The thing is boring. And that Tolkien never was.

25 posted on 10/08/2022 10:36:10 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: nickcarraway

Amazon says if you do not like “The Rings of Power” then you are a racist. Hollywood ruined Star wars and Star Trek and Lord of the Rings and later Marvel films with “girl power”.

The “The Rings of Power” actors look like high school actors. They do not fit the part. I have seen reviews on youtube and the excerpts show the acting and dialog are real bad along with the special effects.

Laughably Bad Copy & Paste Crowd in Rings of Power
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt1vdPEOr1M


26 posted on 10/08/2022 11:06:18 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: nickcarraway

God that is a long article. It isn’t internet trolls that are killing the show it’s that it is woke garbage which has no appeal to actual Tolkien fans. The people that like fantasy programming are the people they are calling trolls for expressing opinions contrary to what Amazon is trying to accomplish which is to make their money back. It doesn’t derive from any actual Tolkien works it is entirely made up by the show runners in a committee. There is no unifying creative force it is a bunch of people trying not to offend any of the protected groups. Fans are not welcome.


27 posted on 10/08/2022 11:52:45 PM PDT by webheart
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To: Mr Rogers

So gay.


28 posted on 10/09/2022 3:22:21 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: nickcarraway
"highest-rated yet on IMDb"


Yeah.. and they (IMDB) deleted any rating that was under 6/10...
29 posted on 10/09/2022 4:47:11 AM PDT by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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To: montag813

AND.. the elves had short hair..


30 posted on 10/09/2022 4:48:15 AM PDT by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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To: nickcarraway

Correct me if I’m wrong, didn’t 12.6 million viewers used to get you cancelled?


31 posted on 10/09/2022 4:48:48 AM PDT by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Now, that’s funny right there. Don’t care who you are.


32 posted on 10/09/2022 4:49:22 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Socialism should more accurately be called Sociopathism)
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To: Yogafist
"Ferrari badge to a Ford fiesta Yugo or Lada has to do with exotic sports cars"
33 posted on 10/09/2022 4:50:53 AM PDT by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Loved the end when uhhh... “they” threw the ax.


34 posted on 10/09/2022 5:01:11 AM PDT by Samurai_Jack (This is not about hypocrisy, this is about hierarchy!)
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To: nickcarraway

So there you go, a how many thousand word article to try to convince you that any criticism is basically just a bunch or racists….

This is the greatest thing that has ever happened to humanity and if you don’t like it YOU are the problem.


35 posted on 10/09/2022 5:16:44 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: TalBlack

You are living in an age of pre-cable.

There are entire broadcast networks these days that don’t have a single show that average a million viewers.

CW I don’t think has a single scripted program that averages a million viewers and it’s a broadcast network.


36 posted on 10/09/2022 5:20:56 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

How things have changed! Go back and look at the numbers Bing Crosby put up in terms of sheer size and percentage of population in audience and sales. It’s no wonder that they guy always seemed so cool and confident. 12 million is a rounding error to him.


37 posted on 10/09/2022 5:44:05 AM PDT by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: TalBlack

As I told you you are living in pre cable days. Only 3 networks at most in any market and maybe 1 or 2 independent stations.

Cable destroyed the world you are referring to, and streaming has eroded it even further

Today the highest watched scripted network broadcast show doesn’t even pull in 11 million viewers a week.

https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/most-popular-tv-shows-ncis-fbi-chicago-fire-1235263770/amp/


38 posted on 10/09/2022 8:12:38 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: nickcarraway
“This is where everything happens,” says showrunner Patrick McKay. “The War Room.”

He sounds like Michael Scott or David Brent from The Office.

People talk that way about places where nothing actually happens.

39 posted on 10/09/2022 8:17:08 AM PDT by x
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“This is where everything happens,” says showrunner Patrick McKay. “The War Room.”

There's no fighting in there.

40 posted on 10/09/2022 8:18:06 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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