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Leader of Putin's 'private army' and Chechen boss 'have declared war' on Russia's defence minister
https://www.msn.com ^ | 10-8-2022 7:01 AM | Elizabeth Haigh

Posted on 10/09/2022 2:49:02 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com

Two of Putin's top army lieutenants have 'openly declared war' on Defence Minister and staunch Putin loyalist Sergei Shoigu after a series of embarrassing defeats for the Kremlin in Ukraine.

Chechen boss Ramzan Kadyrov and founder of the Wagner 'private army' or militia Yevgeny Prigozhin have turned on the minister amid heavy defeats and losses over the last two weeks, The Guardian reports.

It comes after Russia illegally annexed four Ukrainian regions including Donetsk and Luhansk in an announcement to which he gathered all of the country's top leaders and told the world the regions would 'remain with Russia forever.'

But just 24 hours later, there was clear evidence Ukraine was making major gains in the regions, recapturing land that Putin had just claimed as part of Russia.

This week gains in the south and east of Ukraine continued and triggered the two army leaders to openly 'declare war' on the Defence Minister, who is an easy target to blame for Russia's poor military results.

The Kremlin is turning to increasingly desperate measures in order to save face and try and halt the Ukrainian advance, including recruiting prisoners straight out of jail and, now, open infighting.

'Putin is a very destructive personality, he will play the different factions off each other and see what the best outcome will be,' a former Defense Ministry official told the Guardian.

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Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu

Founder of Wagner unit, Yevgeny Prigozhin has long-standing feud with the Defense Minister

Chechnya's regional leader Ramzan Kadyrov

1 posted on 10/09/2022 2:49:03 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

You need to be upfront about whether you get a few dollars for every thread you start


2 posted on 10/09/2022 2:55:52 AM PDT by Long Jon No Silver (Rrily)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Why all this dissension in russian leadership?

All i read here was that russia was doing just awesome in ukraine


3 posted on 10/09/2022 3:04:24 AM PDT by FreshPrince
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To: Long Jon No Silver

you need to be upfront about your always-shilling for Russia


4 posted on 10/09/2022 3:05:47 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative

I think Russia should emulate Nato and cut a few chunks off Ukraine. Interesting how a lot of you Ukrazis see nothing wrong with Nato re drawing Serbias map.


5 posted on 10/09/2022 3:09:14 AM PDT by Long Jon No Silver (Rrily)
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To: Long Jon No Silver
and cut a few chunks off Ukraine

Russia is already trying that

but they keep getting pushed back


6 posted on 10/09/2022 3:12:42 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Putin Regime’s Reported Fractures Risk Making Him Look Weak: ISW
10/8/22 at 6:44 AM EDT
https://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-kremlin-fractures-look-weak-russia-ukraine-war-isw-1750094

Reported disputes within Vladimir Putin’s inner circle threaten to make him look weak, according to a U.S. think tank.

The Institute for the Study of War (ISW) referred to a REPORT in The Washington Post, citing U.S. intelligence, that the Russian leader had been confronted by someone close to him over his “extensive military shortcomings” during the war in Ukraine.

Other Western and Kremlin-affiliated officials have noted growing criticism of Putin’s mishandling of the war and mobilization mistakes, the ISW said. Meanwhile, rumors of “fractures within Putin’s inner circle” have also reached the pro-Kremlin milbloggers, who post unvarnished accounts about the war on their Telegram social media accounts.

This is “undermining the impression of strength and control that Putin has sought to portray throughout his reign,” the ISW said.

It comes amid speculation from bloggers that there are now two factions within the Kremlin following criticism of Russian military command by Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov and head of the Wagner mercenary group, Yevgeny Prigozhin.

The think tank said the bloggers believe Kadyrov and Prigozhin are part of the faction which wants to pursue the war “regardless of cost.” The other group comprises of government officials who want “to negotiate with the West to save their assets and residences in the West but are too afraid to confront Putin directly.”

The presentation of fundamental disagreements and challenges to his decisions in Putin’s inner circle, “even if quiet, within the Russian nationalist space risks depicting Putin as weak and not fully in control of his government,” the ISW said. Newsweek has contacted the Kremlin for comment.
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Criticism of Putin among pro-Kremlin voices following retreats of his forces appears to be growing. Editorial director of the online journal Riddle Russia, Anton Barbashin, tweeted on Saturday that “their confidence that Putin knows what he is doing is diminishing even further.”


7 posted on 10/09/2022 3:17:34 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Both of these dudes need to go bye bye.


8 posted on 10/09/2022 3:27:13 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Long Jon No Silver

Don’t you have something better to do besides trolling posts? How about you polish your Putin statue? It’s laughably short like he is, so it won’t take you long.


9 posted on 10/09/2022 4:16:25 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Slava Ukraini!)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Ukraine must pay pretty well for their minions to come up with all this propaganda. Our billions at work.


10 posted on 10/09/2022 4:34:25 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Read a story about members of the Wagner group tring to rob and harass Putin’s conscripts. The conscripts beat the Wagner boys so bad a group of Wagner folks locked themselves in a building and called the cops to save them


11 posted on 10/09/2022 4:38:34 AM PDT by carcraft (Pray for our Countr)
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To: carcraft

Some of these conscripts were drafted out
of the jails like the Dirty Dozen movie.

Roasted Chechen tastes just like Chicken.

Another gay guy named Sir-Gay.

Ukrainians are now owning over 400 Russian tanks
the Ruskies abandoned as they ran away from
the war.

Without nukes the Russians are Pukes.


12 posted on 10/09/2022 4:47:29 AM PDT by Zenjitsuman (f)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
after Russia illegally annexed four Ukrainian regions

With one word, the writer takes the entire article from reporting to editorial.

They do it all the time to Trump too. "Trump, falsely claiming that the election was stolen."

13 posted on 10/09/2022 4:54:05 AM PDT by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

A war within a war. Very nice. Does this mean gas prices will go higher?


14 posted on 10/09/2022 4:59:36 AM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: Long Jon No Silver

It’s called freedom of speech, tovarisch.


15 posted on 10/09/2022 4:59:42 AM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: FreshPrince

Russia’s such a happy place.


16 posted on 10/09/2022 5:00:38 AM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: super7man

These are the most toxic threads on Freerepublic and a disgrace to the forum. As an aside, the more pro Ukrainian, hate-filled screeds I read the more I think the Russians might be justified in seeking to contain the dangerous influences of the godless Globalists and their despicable puppets.


17 posted on 10/09/2022 5:02:00 AM PDT by binreadin
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To: binreadin

Drivel


18 posted on 10/09/2022 5:03:22 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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To: McGruff

Russia’s forces are 100% accurate. They haven’t missed an apartment building, church, or school yet.


19 posted on 10/09/2022 5:04:06 AM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: McGruff

Russia’s forces are 100% accurate. They haven’t missed an apartment building, church, or school yet.


20 posted on 10/09/2022 5:04:17 AM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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