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1 posted on 12/10/2022 9:48:38 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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2 posted on 12/10/2022 9:50:35 PM PST by dsrtsage ( Complexity is just simple lacking imagination)
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MORE FROM THIS SOURCE — NATURE:

https://www.nature.com/articles/news.2008.542

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Undersea thermal vents can yield unexpected bounty: natural gas and the building blocks of oil products. In a new analysis of Lost City, a hydrothermal field in the mid-Atlantic, researchers have found that these organic molecules are being created through inorganic processes, rather than the more typical decomposition of once-living material.

Most of the planet’s oil and natural gas deposits were created when decomposing biological matter is ‘cooked’ in high temperatures underground. But non-biological hydrocarbons have also been found deep inside the Earth, where chemical processes create the molecules from inorganic sources such as rock.

Although researchers have seen some evidence for inorganic production of hydrogen in the ocean, Lost City ?is the first really clear example of a marine, deep-sea world where hydrocarbons are being synthesized abiotically,? says Giora Proskurowski of the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Massachusetts, one of the researchers who made the discovery.

The Lost City hydrothermal vents, some of which are 60 metres tall, sit above magnesium- and iron-rich deposits called ‘ultramafic’ rock. The minerals contained in the rocks interact with water to produce an environment with plentiful hydrogen, making it chemically favourable for the creation of the hydrocarbon molecules that make up oil and gas.


3 posted on 12/10/2022 9:50:49 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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What is the source of the carbon atoms in abiotic oil?

4 posted on 12/10/2022 9:53:36 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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bttt


5 posted on 12/10/2022 9:55:36 PM PST by Pajamajan ( PRAY FOR OUR NATION. Never be a peaceful slave in a new Socialist America.)
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Hydrogen is the common common element in the universe. Carbon is the 4th. They have a ready affinity for each other and combine into chains of different lengths.
It’s semi retarded to decide that oil and gas can only be formed from dinosaurs.


7 posted on 12/10/2022 9:58:49 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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I’ve long held this theory to be true.

It seems logical to me this is an on-going process that takes place, maybe at different rates, but continually over time.


10 posted on 12/10/2022 10:06:31 PM PST by llevrok (Pronouns: Me/myself/& I)
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There’s something like 12 trillion cf of natural gas in the Marcellus shale formation and the Utica shale formation is under that. Besides the climate change whackos, I can’t understand why a good portion of the NE and Mid-Atlantic doesn’t run nearly everything off natural gas


11 posted on 12/10/2022 10:07:04 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Stupidly is a moral problem, not an intellectual problem. )
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“ We call energy sources such as crude oil and natural gas fossil fuels based on the assumption that they are the products of decaying organisms, maybe even dinosaurs themselves.”

Hear hear! The idea that petroleum is a “fossil fuel” is nothing short of utter ignorance.


12 posted on 12/10/2022 10:12:49 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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I was in grade school when I first heard the term ‘fossil fuel’ in school about crude oil.

I never believed it.

I was vindicated decades ago when research was published about dry oil wells in Texas producing again.

No surprise here - this isn’t new - and less that the left doesn’t like it.


13 posted on 12/10/2022 10:19:35 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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I remember back in the 1980's only the Soviets believed in abiogenic petroleum formation, but now it seems to be going mainstream.
14 posted on 12/10/2022 10:37:00 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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Climate Change is the surreptitious device to castrate the otherwise powerful US.


15 posted on 12/10/2022 10:49:16 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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Bookmark.
Glad more are starting to report this.
The fossil fuel hoax must be exposed constantly.


17 posted on 12/10/2022 10:58:40 PM PST by TianaHighrider (God moved David to STAND UP to Goliath ❣)
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This is a logical assumption. We’ve been using a LOT of crude oil and natural gas. If it were truly a “fossil fuel” it would be in short supply but it isn’t. Coal is another story. It likely IS the remains of ancient plants that have been cooked underground in this wonderful energy furnace known as Earth.


18 posted on 12/10/2022 10:59:57 PM PST by 43north (America doesn't need an election. We need an exorcism.)
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I stated this years ago. Anyone who questions geosynthesis of oil needs to explain why the outer planets are flooded with hydrocarbons,


19 posted on 12/10/2022 11:46:58 PM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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Oil could fall from the sky. It doesn’t matter. The woke Democrats won’t let us use it.


20 posted on 12/11/2022 12:19:22 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (America -- July 4, 1776 to November 3, 2020 -- R.I.P.)
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Rush said this years ago. That man was a prophet.


21 posted on 12/11/2022 12:46:43 AM PST by UnwashedPeasant (The pandemic we suffer from is not COVID. It is Marxist Democrat Leftism.)
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Bookmark


23 posted on 12/11/2022 2:10:06 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how thery control you. )
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Something tells me this won’t be on the evening news.


32 posted on 12/11/2022 5:14:12 AM PST by I want the USA back (Our news media isn't worth camel spit. Neither is the democrat party. )
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I wouldn’t hang my on hat on this quite yet.

This article is actually a 2015 article that references a 2008 Nature article discussing what was found by researchers in 2003.

Yes, they found hydrocarbon compounds absent carbon 14, which is what you find in the decomposing sources.

But they did not find anything remotely resembling an oil field or gas plume. What they found amounted to some chemicals in the fluid spewing from hydrothermal vents in concentrations that “were too low to detect without a filter”.

So, while this is interesting, there is no indication in the article, or elsewhere since the time it was published, that any field we’re able to tap has this type of hydrocarbon.

Meaning everything we are actually able to use is the dead critter variety.


33 posted on 12/11/2022 5:15:29 AM PST by fruser1
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For a long time a question about oil and gas being produced from organic matter bothered me and I mean from a young age and that question went something like this
It seemed to me that for organic matter to turn to oil and gas required a very specific set of conditions otherwise there would be oil under every yard
The idea that things like decaying dinosaurs or any animal matter could achieve those conditions was absurd. Just look how fast that deer on the side of the road turns to nothing and I am supposed to believe that somehow piles of dead dinosaurs managed to get buried before they decayed and ended up 4,5,6…12000 feet below the ground and were turned into “fossil fuels” was ridiculous
Which brought me to the last point let’s say that all this organic matter is responsible for all the oil and gas and there was enough of it all in the right conditions to be turned into black gold, how the heck did it manage to get so deep under the ground and still be intact with the right geological structures to keep it intact to be pulled out in the huge amounts it has been extracted. Seemed implausible even to my young mind.
Then I read the article on abiotic production and it all clicked. God in all His wisdom made the earth a hydrocarbon producing machine
And like all the other blessing bestowed on us the left in their deranged minds throw it away


34 posted on 12/11/2022 5:28:32 AM PST by blitz128
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