Sorry to repeat myself, but:
Tlozo keeps posting that, but it does not mean Col. Macgregor meant that in the old Soviet sense. There are plenty of rootless cosmopolitans in this era of globalism. And I suspect he’s smart enough to know anti-Semitism does not play well before a Serb audience. Serbs did their best to rescue and protect Jews when the Nazis invaded, and risked their lives doing so. They despise everything Nazi and anti-Semitic.
Little-known facts: Serbs saved the odious neocon Albright (who is of Jewish descent) and her family not once but twice. Her father was attaché to the Czechoslovakian embassy in Belgrade when the Nazis invaded. Serbs saved them from being deported to a concentration camp and helped them escape to Britain. The second time was after WWII when her father became ambassador to Belgrade. Back home in Czechoslovakia after the communist coup in 1948, the commies were rounding up all the liberal democrats, of which her father was known to be one. They were given protected refuge in Serbia until they escaped to the US. We all know how she repaid their kindness.
No, Madcow did not turn Serbs against Jews, not at all. When the KLA drove every last Jew out of Kosovo in 1999 (what few were left after the Nazis and their Albanian allies got done with them during WWII), they were welcomed in Serbia.
Mcgregor has also been accused of anti-Semitism because he slammed “neocons” — as if all neocons are Jews. You can guess who is so eager to smear him. Yes, neocons and globalists (who are almost always both things at the same time).
I have always called out anti-Semitism when I have seen it on FR, and have a record of doing so. I haven’t noticed you doing that, but perhaps I missed it.
Another little-known fact. Neocons turn to PR firms, among other things, to gin up support for their wars and win over influential groups (including Jewish groups) who might oppose those wars.
While we’re on the subject of Serbs and Jews:
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Among the public relations firms that played a crucial role in demonizing the Serbs was Ruder & Finn, a paid representa- tive at one time or another for Croatia, Muslim Bosnia, and the Albanian parliamentary opposition in Kosovo. Ruder & Finn’s director, James Harff, boasted of disseminating sensationalistic reports that caused a dramatic increase in public support for US intervention in Bosnia. As Harff told French journalist Jacques Merlino in April 1993, he was proudest of how his firm had manipulated Jewish public opinion.
It was an achievement of some delicacy since Croatian president Franjo Tudjman “was very careless in his book, Wastelands of Historical Truth,” for which he could be found guilty of anti-Semitism.” Bosnian president Alija Izetbegovic also posed serious image problems because his book The Islamic Declaration, “revealed too much support for a Muslim fundamentalist state.” Moreover, the pasts of Croatia and Bosnia were marked by real and cruel anti-Semitism,” Harff admitted. “Tens of thousands of Jews perished in Croatian camps, so there was every reason for intellectuals and Jewish organizations to be hostile toward the Croats and the [Muslim] Bosnians. Our challenge was to reverse this attitude and we succeeded masterfully.”” After Newsday published Roy Gutman’s stories about the reputed Serbian death camps, Harff’s people were able to mobilize several major Jewish organizations — the B’nai Brith Anti-Defamation League, the American Jewish Committee, and the American Jewish Congress:
“That was a tremendous coup. When the Jewish organizations entered the game on the side of the [Muslim] Bosnians, we could promptly equate the Serbs with the Nazis in the public mind. Nobody understood what was happening in Yugoslavia. By a single move we were able to present a simple story of good guys and bad guys which would hereafter play itself. Almost immediately there was a clear change of language in the press, with use of words with high emotional content such as “ethnic cleansing” and “concentration camps,” which evoke images of Nazi Germany and the gas chambers of Auschwitz.”
When Merlino pointed out, “When you did this, you had no proof that what you said was true. All you had were two Newsday articles,” Harff replied: “Our work is not to verify information.... Our work is to accelerate the circulation of information favorable to us ... We are professionals. We had a job to do and we did it. We are not paid to moralize.”
Without wishing to diminish Harff’s sense of achievement, I would point out that Ruder & Finn was so successful not primarily because of its “masterful” promotional ploys. It did what many public relations firms would do: manipulate images, bend information in serviceable ways, send out press releases, try to plant stories, target key groups, lobby Congress and the like. What made the firm’s efforts so effective was the eager receptivity of Western media, who —taking their cues from officialdom — were themselves creating an anti-serb climate of opinion many months before Ruder & Finn‘s PR campaign.
[Above quote from To Kill a Nation: The Attack on Yugoslavia
by Michael Parenti, pp 91-93 — It’s available on Google Books, but the url is so long it would mess up the page here on FR and I don’t feel like messing with html at the moment.]
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See how it works? Why do you think Kuwait hired Hill & Knowlton and six other American PR firms at behest of neocons in our government in 1990? And why Croatia, the Bosnian Muslim leadership and the narco-mafia KLA thugs of Kosovo hired Ruder-Finn and other such firms, also under the guidance of American neocons in power during the 1990s wars in former Yugoslavia? And why Hillary! was so eager to hook up her pet Libyan terrorist barbarians with an influential Beltway PR and lobbying firm and ensure they had the money to pay them well in 2014? The Ukrainians use Yorktown Solutions and KARV Communications, among others. Mercury (which also represented our CIA Libyan pet, Haftar, and had up until recently lobbied for Russian interests) has now scrambled to switch sides and represents a pro-Ukrainian organization.
And yes, various American PR firms, lobbying firms and individual lobbyists are being paid very big bucks by Ukraine for their services. (Your tax dollars at work — send more and more billions!)
Anyway Ruder-Finn hoodwinking and winning over American Jewish groups to not oppose the neocons’ support of Holocaust-denier Franjo Tudjman back in the 1990s was not the first nor last time they propagandized American Jewish groups so as to use them to their ends. Some Israelis see straight through it. Here is a defense of Macgregor published in The Jerusalem Post:
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Macgregor believes that Israel must have defensible borders and that President Trump’s decision to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem was long overdue.
It is upsetting to discover that former US colonel Dr. Douglas MacGregor has been accused of antisemitism. This, to prevent his appointment as US ambassador to Germany. Some American Jewish groups echoed these accusations, but they are misinformed and are being exploited for partisan political purposes.
More at link:
https://m.jpost.com/opinion/antisemitism-accusations-against-dr-douglas-macgregor-are-deeply-upsetting-639119
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For all the talk about Nazis on FR, neither side seems to understand the Bandera type neo-Nazis in Ukraine. They are not like the fringe neo-Nazis here in the States, nor are they like the neo-Nazis in Germany and Scandinavia. They are more like, although not exactly like, the Ustaše type neo-Nazis of Croatia. Their prime target of hatred is not Jews, but rather their brother Slavs. In Croatia, it was the Serbs. In Ukraine, it’s Russian speakers.
Croats and the ethnic Serbs of Croatia both came from the same stock, were genetically identical (except for the Dalmatians along the coast), spoke the same language, but differed in a few cultural ways (religion being the most obvious — Catholic vs Orthodox). Same for Ukrainians/Russians: they come from the same stock and are genetically homogenous (except for some Galicians in Western Ukraine), although owing to separation thanks to the Mongols then European empires, speak languages that are distinct but mostly mutually-intelligible.
Both Croatia and Ukraine lie on the ancient fault lines between the Catholic West and the Orthodox East. Ukrainians, Russians, Croats and Serbs have had to fight off Muslim invaders in their turns (Mongols, Tatars, Ottoman Turks) and this, too, has left its mark on them all. Both countries have lain for centuries on the frontiers* of mighty empires and often served as their battlefields, been swallowed up by bordering empires, and their peoples have been pulled apart then forced together over and over again. It’s no wonder their civil wars are so hideous.
Neither had ever been its very own country until the early 1990s, and had no experience in self rule.
Anyway, just as the neocons did not hesitate to propagandize and cynically use American Jewish groups when taking the side of Croats back in the 1990s, they have no qualms about doing it again now in our proxy war against Russia using Ukraine as our battleground, Ukrainians as cannon fodder. Nor do the neocons have any qualms when it comes to playing the anti-Semite card against their critics.
Ummm, just to be clear.
I support Israel as a requirement of my faith.
I hope that was written to someone else, as I have (to my knowledge) never posted anything anti-Israel as long as I have been here (Apr 1998). I have always posted with a pro-Israel orientation.
Cheers, 'Pod
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>Croats and the ethnic Serbs of Croatia both came from the same stock, were >genetically identical (except for the Dalmatians along the coast), s
How are the Dalmatians different genetically?
>Same for Ukrainians/Russians: they come from the same stock and are >genetically homogenous (except for some Galicians in Western Ukraine),
Are those Galicians the result of intermixing with Romanians or Hungarians?
DIdn’t the ancestors of the Russians assimilate quite a few Finno-Ugrians who lived in modern Russia before the Slavs arrived? Also, didn’t the ancestors of the Ukrainains assimilate Trypilians and Iranians (West Scythio-Sarmatians) as well?