Posted on 01/07/2023 4:54:13 PM PST by conservative98
Rush Limbaugh spent his life advocating for liberty and defending the rights of American citizens. He encouraged his millions of followers to get involved in politics and make their voices heard at the local, state, and national levels.
One of the ways he urged his listeners to get involved was by joining the Article V movement. But those who oppose the Founders' solution to federal overreach have launched a disinformation campaign attacking both Rush and Convention of States Action President Mark Meckler.
In a recent post on social media, Montana State Senator Theresa Manzella claims that Mark lied about Rush's support for our movement.
There's just one problem: we have evidence that proves otherwise. In a recently unearthed conversation with a caller, Rush encouraged the caller to purchase and read Mark Levin's Liberty Amendments, a bestselling book that called for an Article V Convention of States.
"Read it... it's fascinating," Rush said. "Everybody still asks me, 'Rush, what can I do, besides vote?' Everybody wants to do something. Well, look, the standard, ordinary give-and-take and back-and-forth of politics isn't going to work anymore... The Constitution is going to have to be put back together."
"The Founders understood what we are going through today was very possible, and they had a prescription to fix it," he continued. "There are remedies for this. The remedy is not the Republican party. The American people are going to have to fix this. And that's Levin's book. It's a wonderful book."
(Excerpt) Read more at youtu.be ...
Someone has said that Texas can split itself into five states and those can have ten mainly conservative senators in total.
“We would wind up with some nightmare like the Texas Constitution, 86936 words and 517 amendments (literally)”
Huh? All the Construction allows is proposed amendments. They still have to be ratified by 38 states.
So how exactly would what you suggest happen? Lay it out, step by step. But you can’t.
Too late!
We are too far down the slippery slope of “progressive” government and the electorate and too many states are now addicted to handouts.
“Red states will never go for it.”
Really? Wrong.
So far:
States that have passed the Convention of States application (19):
1. Georgia March 6, 2014
2. Alaska April 19, 2014
3. Florida April 21, 2014
4. Alabama May 22, 2015
5. Tennessee February 4, 2016
6. Indiana February 29, 2016
7. Oklahoma April 25, 2016
8. Louisiana May 25, 2016
9. Arizona March 13, 2017
10. North Dakota March 24, 2017
11. Texas May 4, 2017
12. Missouri May 12, 2017
13. Arkansas February 14, 2019
14. Utah March 5, 2019
15. Mississippi March 27, 2019
16. Wisconsin January 25, 2022
17. Nebraska January 28, 2022
18. West Virginia March 4, 2022
19. South Carolina March 29, 2022
States where the Convention of States Application has passed in one chamber but not the other (all time):
New Mexico, Iowa, South Dakota, Virginia, North Carolina, New Hampshire
States considering the Convention of States Resolution in 2022:
Colorado, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, Wyoming.
MileHi: You obviously have no idea what article 5 is.
Me: dpetty has a point. Here's the text from Article V. Look at the part I italicized and bold-faced. You can't tell me the Dims wouldn't figure out a way for Congress to "propose" which groups in the states count as "conventions" for the proposed amendments (i.e. liberals) and which groups in the states should be ignored as not official conventions from their states. As long as Congress gets to decide if the state proposals from amendments comes from legislatures or conventions, it's a dangerous strategy to go Article V. That is, unless we get real conservatives in charge of Congress so that they can decree that amendments come from legislatures only.
Article V: The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.
Bad move. We’re not as smart as our Founding Fathers.
Besides being the one who wrote the book that inspired the people in these Convention of States groups, yes he has given speeches on it, but he also has the biggest national town hall meeting every night at 6. I wouldn’t question his effort. He was discussing it just last night. He was also out at a Convention of States event not that long ago in Forida. They up to like 19 states now.
“There is probably a lurker here right now.”
I count 3. On a Saturday night shift? The means there must be 15-30 total assigned to FR to trash COS anything. That shows how much it is feared.
And the funny thing is, as the recent twitter files show, I’m probably right.
We can’t even pass a budget that point America back to the Founders. But now, by presumably excluding libtards, we will pass Amendments or even rewrite the Constitution.
If an Article V happened, there would be a screaming poo flinging attack from the globalists and Democrats like the world has never seen.
Quit smoking the hopium.
“or even rewrite the Constitution.”
As an amendment? That would then pass by 38 States, passing it in their individual legislatures?
Now, who’s smoking what?
been for it for many years since i read Mark’s book. one of the few things political i agree with him on. you should at least have read his book before you comment on this one.
“We’re not as smart as our Founding Fathers.”
Which is why they wrote it in:
“Article V
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.”
Congress will never pass an amendment for Term Limits. So the State Legislatures will propose the amendment instead.
Either way, 38 States need to ratify it. Just like any other amendments.
Being around Lawyers for years of all stripes I could easily see them scheming way around existing laws, State Legislatures or Conventions plus add the vast amount of money (Maybe a Billion or more) the Left would throw into the fight....Not to mention today’s Judges and what they might rule on if a Constitution Convention were opened up....Too big a risk and gamble.
How many times has the convention among the states been invoked, using Article 5 to change the Constitution?
We haven’t done it.(States have met many times in our national history, just not under the convention of states clause)
Why not start with “baby steps?” and Amend the Constitution the way it has been done 27 times.
“Just throwing it out there.”
Many of these Billionaires are Progressive, what they would not do and money and Resources they would not throw at rewriting the US Constitution..Bill Gates has stated so and others.
We can’t even pass a budget that point America back to the Founders. But now, by presumably excluding libtards, we will pass Amendments or even rewrite the Constitution.
If an Article V happened, there would be a screaming poo flinging attack from the globalists and Democrats like the world has never seen.
Quit smoking the hopium.
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I’m with you.
With the current ideologies “at play” in the American System of government.
“Why take a chance on crap shoot.”
Where do you get that? Article five is for the states to go around congress, or do you think congress should have sole power?
“So how exactly would what you suggest happen? Lay it out, step by step. But you can’t.”
Yeah... I can. The same way half the original constitution gets the finger flipped to it. One Supreme Court ruling and we are off to the races. And that is one example already.
The Supreme Court simply grabbed it’s power to rule on constitutionality. It isn’t in the Constitution.
The Interstate Commerce Clause is wildly abused. Issuing and setting the value of money is in the Constitution, the Federal reserve is not.
They will take an afternoon to rule that a con/con. And NOWHERE does it restrict the convention of states to only the topics in the application. Once they are seated, they can do anything they please... including repealing sections of the original.
So let congress do it? LOL
We need to take the power back from the ruling class.
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