Posted on 02/09/2023 6:13:36 PM PST by fuzzylogic
Thanks for sharing. Very interesting. Musically interesting. Philosophically boring. “Eternal dance.” Yeah, whatever. Cools song, though.
partrs of it sound like the tunes in kill bill when she went on her rampage-
not getting his message- what’s he saying? That he’s antiChrist? Satan? The Beast?
It’s pretty interesting stuff. I think it would really appeal to those who are struggling against Satan but yet reject God. It’s an expression of confusion and frustration.
Thanks
So many dimensions to this. It’s obvious he has poured his struggles with life into this ‘creation’. Very original.
It’s a matter of personal taste. While I aappreciate the young man’s difficulties that doesn’t affect ny personal tastes regarding his performance. To each his own though. If you enjoyed it, great. It’s just not to my tastes. It’s not a value judgement on the young man.
CC
It starts out with “Bad Ren” and “Good Ren.” At first I believed Bad Ren was his disease trying to hold him back, but then Bad Ren turned into something much more sinister, Satan. Satan does these things doesn’t he? Makes you feel weak, unsure or yourself. Good Ren finally recognized that what he had couldn’t be fixed with another pill and it wasn’t going away, so he stood up to it and marched on. Some very deeply rooted Christian themes in this piece. His musicality and performance chops are right on spot. This kid is going places for sure.
Thanks for explaining the song, I started skipping through the song after it seemed he was likening himself to satan/temptation who has been around since the beginning, which was about the 1/2 or 2/3 point in the song.
I think it seemed fairly typical of “hippie poetry” back inmthe day where the writer “walks up to the edge of eternity, leans over and peers in, and sees himself in hell” or sees a dark sinister force which they later discover is themselves. A lot of “poetry” is like that. They write it thinking it is a sort of “shocking content, but the fact is that there is so much of it that it is now ho hum content. The airwaves now are filled with amateurish “shock rock” like Lil nasty, or,whatever he calls himself, and like,the latest grannies award love song to satan.
The song here though seems to me to be the fella meeting the darkness and taking a stand agaisnt it by not allowing it to consume him and cause him to give up in defeat, learning,to live with disability and accepting it, if I’m interpreting it correctly now.
Not really my preferred style,either, but if my interpretation is right, it can be a pretty powerful message to folks who might be struggling to accept something that strikes them down in their prime and destroys their strength and vigor- not an easy thing to accept at such a young age. Lyme disease is no joke, it destroys the body and attempts to destroy the mind too. The body there isn’t much that can be done, but the mind might be able to keep strong.
This is how it,is with Christianity- we tend to trust god when the going is easy, but when devastation co e our way, it really weakens us and threatens to make us walk away in defeat if it is severe enough. Do we love God only when God is our own personal vending machine? Do we have what it takes to love him even when we are being destroyed at every angle? Even elija gave up in dispair- but God didn’t let him and took control and helped revive him even though he didn’t take away the persecution elijah was facing.
Ok enough sermonating- I don’t like his style either, but the message could be a good and inuque one for some.
Smoegle vs. Gollum
MC Ren, of NWA...
Yes sir. He wasn’t likening himself to Satan. He exposed Satan and cast him out of his life.
Thanks- I wasn’t sure what the message was at first. I thought it was just another young person exploring the “shock rock” “poetry” that is so common today
Well that was pretty cool. Kinda Adrian Belew’s “Oh Daddy” filtered through Megadeth’s “Sweatin Bullets” done by Shane McGowan as a rap battle. Of course once you start pushing the form a lot of people freak out.
I love some of the mashups.
This one is my favorite
Slayer - Last Christmas / Angel of Death
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac1hWYjse8o
Slayer and Katrina & The Waves - Chemical Warfare (Don’t It Feel Good?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MrMfoHejiw
Interesting (and agree)...considering another comment mentions “philosophically boring” :)
Some of the mashups are very cool. I’ve always been a big fan covers that take total ownership (and hate covers that try to sound exactly the same) like
Distrurb’s Sound of Silence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9Dg-g7t2l4
ASF’s Satisfaction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YG9MtSIPKM
And of course the high water mark Johnny Cash’s Hurt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AHCfZTRGiI
Rock and roll was at its best when nobody really knew what it was and everybody was carving new territory. I love the guys that keep finding new territory.
Exactly. Other artists (Eminem, Tom MacDonald) have done the “battle with your inner thoughts” concept. This seemed to go that extra step, what was in him was *evil*, Satan and sin, not just self doubt. He stops switching characters when evil takes over, looking straight forward now...then he takes back control realizing his potential.
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