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Argentina’s initial fervor for Pope Francis has faded
Associated Press ^ | March 12, 2023 | Almudena Calatrava and Débora Rey

Posted on 03/12/2023 12:12:34 AM PST by Olog-hai

When Jorge Bergoglio of Argentina became Pope Francis, much of his home country celebrated as if it had just won a soccer World Cup championship. A decade later, the first Latin American leader of the Catholic Church generates divided opinions and much less fervor.

Francis, who still likes to listen to tango, left Argentina in February 2013 to attend the conclave that elected him as the successor to Benedict XVI on March 13. He never returned.

“It’s clear, there are people who are angry at him,” said Argentine journalist Sergio Rubin, who recently co-wrote a book about Francis, “El Pastor,” with Francesca Ambrogetti. It includes interviews with the pope. […]

Rubin says there are reports from the Holy See’s Secretariat of State that advise Francis not to step foot in his home country because anything he does could “be a reason for conflict.” […]

Francis is “a controversial figure, especially among the most conservative sectors of Argentina,” political consultant Sergio Berenzstein said.

Berenzstein said those segments of society never “fully understood the change in attitude” of the pope when in 2013 he took on a decidedly friendly tune toward left-leaning then-President (Cristina) Fernández (de Kirchner). That was a marked contrast from the at-times hostile relationship he had maintained with her government when he was archbishop of Buenos Aires. …

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TOPICS: Local News; Religion
KEYWORDS: argentina; bergoglio; catholic; pinkopope; popefrancis

1 posted on 03/12/2023 12:12:34 AM PST by Olog-hai
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Maybe their fervor will increase if he saves a soul instead of spreading Marxism.


2 posted on 03/12/2023 12:33:42 AM PST by rxh4n1
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To: Olog-hai

Too liberal for his flock in Argentina.


3 posted on 03/12/2023 12:49:22 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Olog-hai
Francis is “a controversial figure, especially among the most conservative sectors of Argentina,”

Conservatism is how the Church has survived for 2,000 years. The Visgoths, Huns, and Vandals weren't Christians, but they respected the Church and left the Pope alone. It was decadent Rome they hated and wanted destroyed (mission accomplished).

4 posted on 03/12/2023 3:04:26 AM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

Actually, the Visigoths and Vandals WERE Christians. Arians.


5 posted on 03/12/2023 5:00:39 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: Olog-hai

It was a big effort for the Left to move up in the Catholic Church to get this activist dude into power at the Vatican, but I do have to hand it them, they did pull it off.


6 posted on 03/12/2023 5:04:46 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Olog-hai

Like a good leftist, Bergoglio never misses a chance to divide.


7 posted on 03/12/2023 6:09:25 AM PDT by nicollo ("I said no!")
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To: Romulus
Actually, the Visigoths and Vandals WERE Christians. Arians.

Well, Arians did not believe that Jesus was Divine, only that he was a special creation by God higher than humans, but lower than God. Kind of like modern-day Jehovah's witnesses believe. If one does not believe Jesus is Divine, by default that one is not a Christian since this is a core Christian belief.

8 posted on 03/12/2023 7:10:55 AM PDT by fidelis (👈 Under no obligation to respond to rude, ignorant, abusive, bellicose, and obnoxious posts.)
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To: Romulus
Actually, the Visigoths and Vandals WERE Christians. Arians.

Later, not in the fifth century, during the barbaric invasions of Italy.

9 posted on 03/12/2023 11:17:13 AM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

The Arian Gothic bishop Ulfilas evangelized the Goths in the 4th century.


10 posted on 03/12/2023 11:31:52 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: Romulus
I'll say again: the barbarian invaders of the 400s were not Christian. This is just plain wrong. Alaric was not a baptised Christian. Attila the Hun was not baptised Christian. Gaiseric was not a baptised Christian. The evangelization of the barbarian tribes occured after Rome and Italy were conquered.


11 posted on 03/12/2023 12:08:19 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: fidelis

The goths were Christians, just heretics.


12 posted on 03/12/2023 12:36:56 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Romulus
The goths were Christians, just heretics.

Well, not just any heresy; they denied the Trinitarian nature of God which is enough to put one outside the pale of orthodox Christianity. For a similar reason, Jehovah's witnesses, Mormons, and other like-minded quasi-Christian sects that do not accept the Trinity are not Christians. What one believes about the nature of Christ is THE game changer, as the efficacy of our salvation depends on it. If Christ was not true man and true God, he could not be the One, essential mediator between man and God.

13 posted on 03/12/2023 1:35:25 PM PDT by fidelis (👈 Under no obligation to respond to rude, ignorant, abusive, bellicose, and obnoxious posts.)
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To: fidelis

Yes, I know. They had their own baptistry in Ravenna, you know. It is indistinguishable from the orthodox baptistry.


14 posted on 03/12/2023 2:03:34 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

I’ll give you some time to research this and discover you’re mistaken.


15 posted on 03/12/2023 2:05:29 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Romulus
I’ll give you some time to research this and discover you’re mistaken.

Dude, I already know the topic. You're timeline and sequence of events are off.

16 posted on 03/12/2023 2:23:37 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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