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New lithium recycling method is cleaner and cheaper...It could help ensure we have all the batteries we need for the clean energy future.
FreeThink ^ | April 2, 2023 | By Kristin Houser

Posted on 04/04/2023 10:46:42 AM PDT by Red Badger

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1 posted on 04/04/2023 10:46:42 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

Stopped reading at “climate change”.


2 posted on 04/04/2023 10:49:11 AM PDT by bicyclerepair (Let's Go Brandon!)
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Same.


3 posted on 04/04/2023 10:49:31 AM PDT by Tommy Revolts
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To: Red Badger
This is dumb. There is enough lithium in a free market. Free market for mineral mining and processing (little or no government restrictions). Free marking for drilling oil and natural gas. And free market in people driving what they want (ICE or EV or both) and energizing their homes how they want (natural gas and electricity).

Shortages happen only when government messes up the market both at the supply end and at the demand end.

4 posted on 04/04/2023 10:50:52 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Red Badger

Have they solved the child labor/poisoning problem? Have they made lithium fireproof?


5 posted on 04/04/2023 10:52:54 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well those that did not make it back.)
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To: Red Badger

“The lithium needed to create those batteries is a finite resource,”

Last year we mined .1 million tons.

Global reserves are almost 100 million tons.


6 posted on 04/04/2023 10:53:21 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Tell It Right

A cheaper recycling process is always useful, especially if it’s an economically viable alternative child miners or landfills.


7 posted on 04/04/2023 10:58:14 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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A cheaper recycling process is always useful, especially if it’s an economically viable alternative child miners or landfills.

Over half of lithium comes from Australia. And we have enough cobalt in Minnesota for the US's needs -- if the Dims got out of the way.

But "for the US's needs" assumes free market on the demand side and the Dims quit trying to force everybody to switch to EV's.

8 posted on 04/04/2023 11:01:42 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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I think very few people know how much steel and aluminum are recycled.


9 posted on 04/04/2023 11:01:52 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Red Badger

The lithium mining itself is destructive. This is pure BS to fool the ignorant.


10 posted on 04/04/2023 11:02:11 AM PDT by alstewartfan ("She looks like she's 19 years old, sitting there like a lady with her legs crossed." Creepy Joe)
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To: Tell It Right

You are conceding the premise, that electric cars are desirable. MOST AMERICANS DO NOT WANT THEM. Gas stations take minutes, and a full tank of gasoline lasts many hours! You know this.


11 posted on 04/04/2023 11:05:17 AM PDT by alstewartfan ("She looks like she's 19 years old, sitting there like a lady with her legs crossed." Creepy Joe)
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To: Red Badger

Recycling Lithium, a highly unstable metal— what could go wrong to make this environmentally destructive? Everything. Like working with mercury.


12 posted on 04/04/2023 11:10:27 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Red Badger
Excerpt from Dr Michaux 8/22 presentation


13 posted on 04/04/2023 11:18:13 AM PDT by fretzer
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I call BS.


14 posted on 04/04/2023 11:20:28 AM PDT by exnavy (Grow your faith, and have the courage to use it.)
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just more BLAH BLAH BLAH


15 posted on 04/04/2023 11:43:37 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Red Badger
The notion that we’re going to power the world, including transportation, with batteries is laughably absurd. Real solutions develop naturally, because of their inherent benefits, and those benefits outweighing the cost. This “green” idiocy requires an endless array of more and more absurd bandaids to be applied to try to make up for the deficiencies of the basic approach. Solar panels don’t produce power at night, or when it’s cloudy, or when the panels are covered with snow, etc., and windmills don’t produce power when the wind doesn’t blow, so rather than admit the folly of trying to power a modern society with such nonsense, the greenies instead stretch to extremes to reach for a solution, in this case battery storage.

But that only creates even more problems that have to be patched with even more absurd “solutions.” Case in point: It was recently estimated that it would cost $13 TRILLION Euros to acquire and install the battery backup capacity necessary to electrify all of Europe with “renewable” sources. And it was stated that there isn’t remotely close to enough Lithium and Cobalt reserves, or the capacity to mine and refine it, and to manufacture the batteries, to meet this goal. Then there is the fact that if power from solar and wind is being stored during the day, then that generating capacity isn’t available during the day to power anything, so even more solar and wind has to be built just to power things while the rest are charging batteries. This means that you have to have essentially DOUBLE the generating capacity that is required with conventional power plants, which generate the same amount of power 24 hours per day and thus don’t need storage.

When your basic premise is false, as is the case with the “renewable energy” fiasco, then reality will eventually force you to either admit you are wrong or else embark upon an endless path of ever more absurd attempts to patch the holes in the underlying premise. The envirowackos have chosen the latter, which is why we see these ridiculous Rube Goldberg-esque “solutions” proposed to deal with the manifest deficiencies of “renewables.” They’ve even proposed such idiocy as building huge reservoirs uphill from solar plants and using the solar power to pump water uphill during the day, only to release it at night to spin turbines and generate electricity when the sun isn’t shining. Never mind the ENORMOUS cost of something like that, and the fact that solar capacity used to pump water uphill during the day can’t be used to provide any power to the grid. You could do all of that ridiculousness, at astronomical cost, or you could just use coal, natural gas, or nuclear to generate electricity continuously, rain or shine, as we have done reliably for generations.

It’s the difference between harnessing up 10,000 hamsters to pull your car around, or just dropping in an engine and going about your day.

16 posted on 04/04/2023 11:54:41 AM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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Hydrogen Fuel cells are the future.

And the only by-product is water.


17 posted on 04/04/2023 12:23:01 PM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare)
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To: Tell It Right
This is dumb. There is enough lithium in a free market.

Why is it dumb? If you can recycle lithium batteries cheaper than you can mine it the free market will recycle lithium batteries.

Single use, throwaway culture is dumb.

18 posted on 04/04/2023 1:08:30 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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Recycle them and retro fit them with the magic ingredient that came out yesterday that makes them last 10X longer.


19 posted on 04/04/2023 1:10:57 PM PDT by shotgun
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Exactly why fedzilla wishes to embrace the loser of the two, and smother H2 powered cars.


20 posted on 04/04/2023 1:36:40 PM PDT by SPDSHDW (Ya’ll knew he was installed via fraud, and chose to do nothing. Enjoy the roller coaster ride.)
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