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1 posted on 04/04/2023 10:46:42 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

Stopped reading at “climate change”.


2 posted on 04/04/2023 10:49:11 AM PDT by bicyclerepair (Let's Go Brandon!)
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This is dumb. There is enough lithium in a free market. Free market for mineral mining and processing (little or no government restrictions). Free marking for drilling oil and natural gas. And free market in people driving what they want (ICE or EV or both) and energizing their homes how they want (natural gas and electricity).

Shortages happen only when government messes up the market both at the supply end and at the demand end.

4 posted on 04/04/2023 10:50:52 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Red Badger

Have they solved the child labor/poisoning problem? Have they made lithium fireproof?


5 posted on 04/04/2023 10:52:54 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well those that did not make it back.)
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“The lithium needed to create those batteries is a finite resource,”

Last year we mined .1 million tons.

Global reserves are almost 100 million tons.


6 posted on 04/04/2023 10:53:21 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Red Badger

The lithium mining itself is destructive. This is pure BS to fool the ignorant.


10 posted on 04/04/2023 11:02:11 AM PDT by alstewartfan ("She looks like she's 19 years old, sitting there like a lady with her legs crossed." Creepy Joe)
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Recycling Lithium, a highly unstable metal— what could go wrong to make this environmentally destructive? Everything. Like working with mercury.


12 posted on 04/04/2023 11:10:27 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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Excerpt from Dr Michaux 8/22 presentation


13 posted on 04/04/2023 11:18:13 AM PDT by fretzer
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I call BS.


14 posted on 04/04/2023 11:20:28 AM PDT by exnavy (Grow your faith, and have the courage to use it.)
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To: Red Badger

just more BLAH BLAH BLAH


15 posted on 04/04/2023 11:43:37 AM PDT by butlerweave
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The notion that we’re going to power the world, including transportation, with batteries is laughably absurd. Real solutions develop naturally, because of their inherent benefits, and those benefits outweighing the cost. This “green” idiocy requires an endless array of more and more absurd bandaids to be applied to try to make up for the deficiencies of the basic approach. Solar panels don’t produce power at night, or when it’s cloudy, or when the panels are covered with snow, etc., and windmills don’t produce power when the wind doesn’t blow, so rather than admit the folly of trying to power a modern society with such nonsense, the greenies instead stretch to extremes to reach for a solution, in this case battery storage.

But that only creates even more problems that have to be patched with even more absurd “solutions.” Case in point: It was recently estimated that it would cost $13 TRILLION Euros to acquire and install the battery backup capacity necessary to electrify all of Europe with “renewable” sources. And it was stated that there isn’t remotely close to enough Lithium and Cobalt reserves, or the capacity to mine and refine it, and to manufacture the batteries, to meet this goal. Then there is the fact that if power from solar and wind is being stored during the day, then that generating capacity isn’t available during the day to power anything, so even more solar and wind has to be built just to power things while the rest are charging batteries. This means that you have to have essentially DOUBLE the generating capacity that is required with conventional power plants, which generate the same amount of power 24 hours per day and thus don’t need storage.

When your basic premise is false, as is the case with the “renewable energy” fiasco, then reality will eventually force you to either admit you are wrong or else embark upon an endless path of ever more absurd attempts to patch the holes in the underlying premise. The envirowackos have chosen the latter, which is why we see these ridiculous Rube Goldberg-esque “solutions” proposed to deal with the manifest deficiencies of “renewables.” They’ve even proposed such idiocy as building huge reservoirs uphill from solar plants and using the solar power to pump water uphill during the day, only to release it at night to spin turbines and generate electricity when the sun isn’t shining. Never mind the ENORMOUS cost of something like that, and the fact that solar capacity used to pump water uphill during the day can’t be used to provide any power to the grid. You could do all of that ridiculousness, at astronomical cost, or you could just use coal, natural gas, or nuclear to generate electricity continuously, rain or shine, as we have done reliably for generations.

It’s the difference between harnessing up 10,000 hamsters to pull your car around, or just dropping in an engine and going about your day.

16 posted on 04/04/2023 11:54:41 AM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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Hydrogen Fuel cells are the future.

And the only by-product is water.


17 posted on 04/04/2023 12:23:01 PM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare)
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Recycle them and retro fit them with the magic ingredient that came out yesterday that makes them last 10X longer.


19 posted on 04/04/2023 1:10:57 PM PDT by shotgun
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“The mechanical force of the milling causes a chemical reaction between the aluminum and the cathode materials — though even the researchers aren’t exactly sure why. “It is really hard to say how it happens,””

nonsense ... the answer is easy: “SCIENCE” ...


22 posted on 04/04/2023 2:26:57 PM PDT by catnipman (In a post-covid world, ALL "science" is now political science: stolen elections have consequences)
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“... if it works as well in the real world as it does in the lab.”

Not a lot of confidence displayed there!


23 posted on 04/04/2023 2:34:11 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Biden not only suffers fools and criminals, he appoints them to positions of responsibility. )
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Get your New and Improved Lithium today buy it while supplies last.

Paid for by B.S. Inc.


24 posted on 04/04/2023 2:37:38 PM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: Red Badger

This falls short of making “green energy” become truly viable. Why not come up with a different form of “green energy” then we can pay energy bills 3 ways instead of just 2?


28 posted on 04/05/2023 5:13:18 AM PDT by oldtech
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Okay.


30 posted on 04/05/2023 5:24:01 AM PDT by NetAddicted (MAGA2024)
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